r/europe • u/AlfredsChild England • 2d ago

News Reform takes shock 15-point lead over Labour as Farage dreams of winning power

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/reform-shock-15-point-lead-labour-farage-power-3887857
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u/ahoyhoy2022 2d ago

All of you who have been pointing fingers at the US, remember how close you in your own countries are to elected fascist governments.

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u/Krnu777 2d ago

I'm absolutely looking forward to next year's regional elections in Germany. Voters will get what they deserve... /s

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u/Iconic_Mithrandir 2d ago

Make goose-stepping great again...coming to a town near you

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u/gookman European Union 2d ago

The difference is that most European countries haven't elected one yet. You have. Twice I might say.

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u/ahoyhoy2022 1d ago

Then you’d think Europeans would see the example and choose not to follow it, wouldn’t you?

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u/4got_2wipe_again 1d ago

Within 10 years multiple continental countries will have governments that make Trump look warm and fuzzy.

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u/DryCloud9903 1d ago

The sad part is, in Britain's case, it will not be that far off from voting trump in twice - at least on the "normal" stuff, minus the coup.

Why: Farage is the face of Brexit. If people understood well enough that their pain right now is largely due to that fact, Farage would be in a position where he'd hardly ever get a headline (but that's part of the problem: press prioritizes clicks over integrity, and disproportionately shows anything Reform to any boring policy changes).

In a way he has been in power because of that. He's effected the most significant shift in British politics over decades. And since he has been in the spotlight of the press, it's not like people just "won't know" what he thinks or would do (or if they look at it critically - how insane or impossible his suggestions are).

I'm not saying it's a 1:1 comparison. But it is "hold my beer: round 2" after Brexit  if he gets elected

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u/Darkhoof Portugal 2d ago

And your point is? You felt slighted by someone and you want us to be miserable as well?

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u/ahoyhoy2022 1d ago

My point is that the wise person learns from others’ mistakes. But instead I see a lot of rhetoric as though there is something unique about the US and Americans that led to Trump. I‘m afraid that leads to a false sense of security about European fascism.

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u/Darkhoof Portugal 1d ago

Usually what happens first in the US arrives a few years later to Europe. A lot of people look to the US as a reference. If the US turns to fascism they see that as the path to follow as the US is richer, thus their example should be followed for everything. 🙄

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u/bigmac1339 United Kingdom 1d ago

It's baffling to me how on this subreddit in particular, there are daily articles bashing the US/Trump, yet threads like this are always full of people justifying voting for parties headed by politicians like Farage who want their countries to be Trump's America lite

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u/FistyFistWithFingers 1d ago

Discussing the US is more of a recreational activity for you guys across the pond than any sort of honest analysis

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u/gottahavetegriry Ireland 2d ago

Do you even know what’s fascism is?

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u/FistyFistWithFingers 1d ago

Fascism is when America bad

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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) 2d ago

"It can't happen to us!"

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u/Ok-Sun-8754 1d ago

You have only to read the threads here and comments to realise just how fcuked we currently are… 

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u/Sweet_Concept2211 2d ago

Harris was a great candidate with only 4 months to run against a guy who was given free press every day for 10 years straight.

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u/Shinobismaster United States of America 2d ago

Do you genuinely believe this or is it a defensive response? I do agree with you that Trump has gamed the media to give him free press

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u/Sweet_Concept2211 2d ago

I genuinely believe this.

Harris was a far better candidate than Trump.

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u/Shinobismaster United States of America 2d ago

I don't think she was a great candidate but believing she was better than Trump makes sense

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u/Sweet_Concept2211 2d ago

She is affable, her resume is stellar, with decades of public service from entry level all the way to the top, her policies would have been great for the US and its allies.

The media would not give her a break - it was a struggle to find a single headline about her that did not also squeeze in some mention of Trump, whether it made sense or not.