r/europe • u/AlfredsChild England • 2d ago

News Reform takes shock 15-point lead over Labour as Farage dreams of winning power

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/reform-shock-15-point-lead-labour-farage-power-3887857
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u/RepulsiveBridge2018 2d ago

Did the tories break the system in every other country? Exact same thing is happening in Ireland, France, Germany, Italy etc

So if people want the issue fixed and the left, center and right cant/won't fix it who do you expect people to vote for?

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u/herbieLmao Germany 2d ago

Speaking for germany merkel, a conservative let the refugees in, causing the uprosing of afd

Its not the tories, but our equivalent. Each time someone talks about immigrants, weidel from afd is happy, an esch time someone doesn’t, she brings it up most randomly, even in completely unrelated debates

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u/BreadSniffer3000 Germany 2d ago

No one "let them in". Were in Schengen, we have no closed borders.

If Merkel in 2015 had decided to close the borders (if that would have even been possible at all), we'd now hear about her burying Schengen and abandoning the south instead.

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u/herbieLmao Germany 2d ago

That was umgangssprachlich. Hör auf mir Vorlesungen zu halten, ich weiß das alles selbst

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u/BreadSniffer3000 Germany 2d ago

Dann schreibs halt nicht so dass es wie der übliche "Merkel hat die alle eingeladen" wahnsinn klingt lol

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u/RepulsiveBridge2018 2d ago

Schengen isnt the issue. Ireland isnt in Schengen and we are still in trouble. The real issue that no one is willing to admit is the refugee bills need to be rewritten and limit the ability to claim asylum to within continents. Someone from Africa or the middle east for example should only be able to asylum within their specific continents. All of this goes away over night, no more legal nonsense dragging out for years, no more people smuggling, no more billions spent on hotels. Europe isnt ready for that big boy conversation yet though.

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u/BreadSniffer3000 Germany 2d ago

Yeah, I agree with that.

I meant Schengen in the context of the specific situation in 2015, when people were already queuing inside europe.