r/europe • u/AlfredsChild England • 2d ago

News Reform takes shock 15-point lead over Labour as Farage dreams of winning power

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/reform-shock-15-point-lead-labour-farage-power-3887857
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u/omgu8mynewt 2d ago

Let alone lib dems who won 72 seats whereas reform have 4. 

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u/AlfredTheMid England 2d ago

Lib Dems are seen as completely irrelevant to most people 

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u/omgu8mynewt 2d ago

Not true, lib dems have 18 times as many MPs as reform and control of 76 local councils. Reform have only 4 MPs out of 650 and control 10 councils.

Saying people don't care about lib dems is obviously untrue in our democracy, reform are way over represented in the media compared to how people actually vote in our system.

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u/Ok-Chest-7932 2d ago

And still seen as irrelevant because lib dem MPs are mostly southern nimbys who have been basically interchangeable with conservatives for years. Lib dems have a lot of safe seats, but basically zero appeal outside of them, because labour have historically been the tactical vote everywhere else.

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u/omgu8mynewt 2d ago

Voting record and number of MPs says you're wrong, 72 mps isn'tlib dem safe seats, many were conservative rejection where people don't want to vote Reform. Eighteen times more MPs than reform, and you say they have 'zero appeal'. Get off Facebook.

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u/Ok-Chest-7932 2d ago

You're literally commenting in the thread about a news article that proves that nobody gives a shit about the lib dems. I'd vote lib dem over reform, but it wouldn't be because I liked the lib dems, it's because a hung parliament is the best possible outcome right now.

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u/GreyMASTA 2d ago

Bc of the reason stated in the post of the post you reply too. Are you paying attention?

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u/AlfredTheMid England 2d ago

I'm currently in a Lib Dem constituency, and they're seen as irrelevant. Lib Dems don't even enter the conversation when anyone is discussing politics. They've done that themselves by accidentally becoming the party that stands for nothing in particular 

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u/Severe_Revenue 1d ago

Reform had 600,000 more votes (4.1 million in total) than the Lib Dems (3.5 million in total). People keep acting like Reform is like a Northern Irish party, not a party that had the third largest vote share in 2025.