r/europe • u/AlfredsChild England • 2d ago

News Reform takes shock 15-point lead over Labour as Farage dreams of winning power

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/reform-shock-15-point-lead-labour-farage-power-3887857
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u/Laxly 2d ago

I agree but disagree.

There are obviously tensions due to immigrants, but most of it due to the average person not having enough money to live a comfortable life.

Low wages, increasing cost of food and houses, a social security system on its knees, no investment and no positivity.

If the average person had enough money this wouldn't be an issue.

Historically the right has chosen a bogey man and told you they're the reason you're poor, in the 80's it was the Irish and Black people, it's been Indian and Pakistani people, gay people, single mums, disabled and Europeans.

If you look back to the late 90's and early 00's when the country was prospering none of these people were a major concern, but as soon as finances get right, along comes a charlatan to tell you that Johnny forefinger has stolen your magic beans

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u/PatrickTheSosij 1d ago

There are obviously tensions due to immigrants, but most of it due to the average person not having enough money to live a comfortable life.

This isn't true. People will stiff upper lip and deal with having to eat gruel, but what they don't like is chalk and cheese cultures.

If you look back to the late 90's and early 00's when the country was prospering none of these people were a major concern, but as soon as finances get right, along comes a charlatan to tell you that Johnny forefinger has stolen your magic beans

Islam wasnt as big as it is today in the 90s.

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u/LeBlueBaloon 1d ago

Agreed. The UK needs to get more housing built.

The way to do that is to standardize the building permit application process and drastically cut down on the rules and regulations local levels can put in place to restrict expanding the housing supply.

When housing costs drop and economic hubs can expand, all the other problem largely go away.

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u/militantcentre World Heritage United Kingdom 2d ago

"No investment"? WTF are you talking about? Inflation has been a worldwide problem, in case you hadn't noticed, and wage rises have been ahead of inflation for some time now.

People like you patronise poorer people who are well aware of it. It's why they turn to people like Farage.

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u/Laxly 2d ago

Apologies, I was making the point that at times of a poor economy it is the "working class" that feel the pain first and the most, and at times like that it is understandable to look for reasons why as they see the rich getting richer even in times of hardship and it is at that those times that the likes of Farage come along, tell them who to blame (hint, not the rich people like him who are profiting off the suffering of the poor) to fix their problems.

In regards to no investment I am talking about infrastructure which has been lacking in this country for years now.

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u/AwkwardRooster 2d ago

Plenty of poor people who see it the same way as the other poster. Farage is an investment banker, born into the role. He doesn’t speak for anyone but his own, and he doesnt include your average white english person in that