Kremlin-Mandated Messaging App Constantly Spies On Users

[u/Dry_Row_7050]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2025/08/26/kremlin-whatsapp-rival-is-designed-to-spy-on-users/

[u/Puzzled_Muzzled]

Surprise surprise!

[u/prueba_hola → u/Puzzled_Muzzled]

Surprise surprise! the same happen with whatsapp, Microsoft Windows, Android, Apple Ios !!

[u/penguin_skull → u/prueba_hola]

One spies to detectpolitical disent, the other spies to sell your data and target you with advertisment. They are not the same.

[u/ro_nsn → u/penguin_skull]

Well, it’s literally the same the EU wants to do in the near future 🤪😍

[u/penguin_skull → u/ro_nsn]

Go cry in Russian. Always the same BS projection.

[u/Novinhophobe → u/penguin_skull]

Actually what EU proposes would go even beyond what Russia or China are doing right now. Europe would become pioneers in next level espionage and control of its citizens.

Valid and factual criticism of European Union or whichever the fuck institution does not make someone a “bot” or “troll” or “agent” of some foreign power. Europeans really need to wake the fuck up and understand where all this propoganda is headed. Europe has very actively regressed during the past 5 years and it’s Europeans themselves who are responsible for like half of the stuff.

[u/penguin_skull → u/Novinhophobe]

If the EU gets your data, you won't go to prison for 7 years because your daughter drew an Ukrainian flag. That's the difference between Russia and the EU. Comparing the 2 and getting an equal result is just ignorance.

[u/ro_nsn → u/penguin_skull]

Ah, so criticizing the EU = Kremlin agent now? Guess I should start waiting for my paycheck in rubles. Top tier debate.

[u/penguin_skull → u/ro_nsn]

You seem the type who does it for free.

[u/magpieswooper]

That is a spy app with a messaging function.

[u/prueba_hola → u/magpieswooper]

Microsoft Windows is a Spyware OS

[u/cuxer → u/prueba_hola]

Settle down, Vlad

[u/TheIncredibleHeinz]

Russia's domestic app store, RuStore, will also be pre-installed on all Apple devices from the same date.

What's the status of Apple's operations in Russia anyway? Looks like they are they back to business as usual? I remember them fighting tooth and nails against the alternative App Store requirement mandated by the EU's Digital Markets Act, which according to the Americans is the devil, arguing about security, data protection and what not. But allowing the Russian's to implements their Spy and Malware Store is apparently totally fine?

[u/Dalnore → u/TheIncredibleHeinz]

They officially don't operate in the country, but they do nothing to prevent imports of Apple devices from third countries and they comply with all censorship demands of Russia (like deleting VPN apps from the Russian AppStore, for example).

However, there's no indication yet they will comply with pre-installing RuStore.

[u/djquu]

Kremlin-mandated spying app can also be used for messaging fify

[u/Downtown-Sell5949]

So… just like the EU soon? Except it’s gonna be all apps and services.

[u/Dry_Row_7050 → u/Downtown-Sell5949]

Yes, and when EU commission signs the UN cybercrime treaty in October (that was originally proposed by Russia in 2017 and adopted by UN in 2024) and it is ratified, EU countries become obliged to help Russia in tracking their citizens.

The convention will obligate governments to collect electronic evidence and share it with foreign authorities for any "serious crime,” defined as an offense punishable by at least four years of imprisonment under domestic law. Many governments treat activities protected by international human rights law as serious offenses, such as criticism of the government, peaceful protest, same-sex relationships, investigative journalism, and whistleblowing.

NGO’s aren’t the only ones to criticize the UN convention, even Cisco said it’s too broad and doesn’t even focus on hacking or cybersecurity

[u/Significant_Court728 → u/Dry_Row_7050]

Op meant the chat control law.

[u/Dacadey → u/Downtown-Sell5949]

Russian here.

Yup, a very similar thing. Also with the same retarded justification - EU justifies it as “save the children”, Russia justifies it as “stop the cyberfraud on WhatsApp/Telegram”

[u/beertown → u/Dacadey]

To be honest, I think the Russian justification is less stupid.

[u/TheElementofIrony → u/beertown]

It's just as stupid because it's just as ineffective and just as much of a charade.

[u/Baron_von_Ungern → u/beertown]

It would be if scammers weren't robbing people just as easily as if they tried to do the same thing on whatsapp and telegram. It's necessary to say that cyberfraud is much more often happens through regular phone calls and messages.

[u/La_mer_noire → u/Downtown-Sell5949]

No, EU wants your own devices to spy on you all the time with all the apps.

They only have bullshit ideas and this one is criminal.

[u/Such_Astronomer35]

Wait so we'll have it even worse than Russia? Our phones will spy on us on all apps, not just one. Great.

[u/Any-Original-6113]

What else could the Russians have expected?

[u/diamantaire]

Does the app also suggest to stand near windows ?

[u/OurManInJapan]

In other news the Pope is indeed catholic?

[u/Painlezz]

Well its a full on police state now so…..

[u/trollsmurf]

Soon Europe will do the same.

[u/-Sir_Pug- → u/trollsmurf]

YAh but in Europe what you write in the chat apps won't cause you to fall from windows.

[u/trollsmurf → u/-Sir_Pug-]

Vucic and Orban might downvote.

[u/Snack378 → u/trollsmurf]

Vucic (Serbia) not in EU, maybe you meant Fico?

[u/trollsmurf → u/Snack378]

Ah yes, that's true.

Fico (Slovakia, if anyone missed it) would probably also downvote.

[u/mihjok]

We want only one side to spy us, no need for other spies.

[u/SS_wypipo]

And chat control bullcrap is fine? Its literally the same thing. No it doesnt change a single thing who does it, no one is naive enough to believe that chat control will benefit any of us.

[u/Desperate_Golf7634]

Wow! Thankfully we in Europe do not have to worry about such things.

[u/PuzzleheadedWeb1466]

A bit like the European chat control project?

[u/-Sir_Pug- → u/PuzzleheadedWeb1466]

Expect this app will tell you to go stand near window or to balcony when you criticize government.

[u/ViruliferousBadger]

Oh, no, it can’t be! /s

So it work just like chat control and US border guards? :P

[u/aamgdp]

Denmark be like: "we want that"

[u/Whooptidooh]

REALLY? Nooooooo. Can’t be.

I’m shocked.

[u/DryCloud9903]

I have never been this shocked in my life! Gasps audibly

[u/Confident_Frame2213]

Water is wet

[u/AdhesivenessFun2060]

Has anyone checked trumps phone?

[u/yksvaan]

Pretty much every app collects as much data as legitimately possible. Some even more than that. Needless to say, when government creates the app who's to say what it can collect or not...

[u/ViruliferousBadger → u/yksvaan]

“Legitimately”

In russia? “Law” is what putler wants it to be, LOL!

[u/yksvaan → u/ViruliferousBadger]

Yes? It's legitimate according to their laws. Or at least practices. 

[u/-Sir_Pug- → u/yksvaan]

Yah, but when you write in most apps "I don't like my countrys leadership" cops wont come to arrest you.

[u/NonSekTur]

And the difference to the ones the rest of the world uses is...?

[u/-Sir_Pug- → u/NonSekTur]

Well in this one you can't criticize government.

[u/Fluffy_Blueberry7109]

So if i instal it, will a qt fsb agent read my texts?