Non-EU countries receive more funding from European Innovation Fund than 2/3 of EU countries combined

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I understand Norway and UK - what Israel is even doing here, though?

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They're often inventing or working on very cool technology, not even military stuff. Medical, general tech which benefits countries who invest in it.

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There's plenty of countries working on very cool technology. Why i don't see any: Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Switzerland or USA on the list? Switzerland would make much more sense, if it's anything EU related, since at least it's a part of EFTA. And Switzerland is not currently engaged in genocide with a government run a by a guy pushing for war to stay in office.

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None in the level of Israel.

According to Neil DeGrasse Tyson there are two natural borders you can see from space. One is North Korea and South Korea (South Korea have a lot more economic activity so a lot more lights). The is Israel and its neighbours, because it's much greener from their irrigation technology compared to the surrounding countries. If this tech was so easy, they would have already adopted it!

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I guess it's easier to have very advanced technology when you're being sponsored by both EU and USA.

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yeah uae and saudis have no money at all

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I'd wager they invest, including in Israel (when nobody's looking).

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Israel's strong start-up culture is much more tied to the role of the military, e.g. cyber units, and massive promotion from the Israeli government than a few hundred million in funding from the EU. In the grand scheme of things, a few hundred million isn't much.

And that is what Israel excels in - innovation, not buying European tech.

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So if it's tied to military, I don't think EU should participate in any sort of funding agreement - even if it's supposed to be balanced per saldo.

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So if it's tied to military

The companies don't necessarily create tech for the military. Moreover, the EIB of course decided which companies and for what tech they get funding.

However, Israel's start-up culture is fostered partially within the military by how it is set up. For example, some cyber units in the IDF form a very resilient path into big tech (like Nvidia) or start-ups

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Or if you care about your people and not just about how to pull out as much money from the country as possible

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Dunno if it's about care, i'm sure there are billions flowing in from richest countries though.

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The same way as billions are flowing into all Eastern European countries

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That are actually part of EU, provide massive benefits to other member states through shared market and don't engage into genocide. Just a slight distinction.

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So then they should try to build up their R&D so EU can fund their projects.

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Yup. In the meantime EU has plenty of countries not engaged in genocide with very good R&D record to choose our external partners from.

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So then those countries should start being part of the program. And genocide? Must be the first one in which the population actually is rising while it is claimed to be killed.

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It's always nice when people deny genocide out in the open. Makes it easier to know who you're talking with.

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Are those potential partners interested in cooperating? Are there actually that much potential partners with spotless track record? And Palestine is just in final phase of FAFO, they worked diligently to alienate any country that would be willing to help. Will cooperating with Israel be acceptable after they are done? If not, how much time must pass until it is?

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You genocide whitewashers are disgusting.

Murdering innocent people is bad, persecuting civilians is bad, genocide is bad. Two wrongs don't make right. Ingrain that.

How many time must pass? Until guilty are brought before independent court.

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its not because they have better irrzgation tech its because they destroy their neighbors thech and pump all the jourdain water