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Data Non-EU countries receive more funding from European Innovation Fund than 2/3 of EU countries combined

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u/Terrible-Duck4953 India 2d ago

Why does the UK get so less funding than Israel.

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u/shatureg 1d ago edited 1d ago

Forget about the UK. Why do actual EU countries get so much less?!

EDIT: The downvoters in the comments below really show you can't have a normal conversation when Israel is involved. There's some militant people with an agenda in the comments whenever that country's name is dropped here.

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u/gookman European Union 1d ago

As painful as it sounds it's because they don't innovate or they do on very small scales. And that as /u/deceased_parrot said is because of corrupt politicians that do not try to foster a culture of innovation or try to improve the education in these countries.

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u/shatureg 1d ago

Your comment doesn't actually answer my question. Why isn't South Korea on the list? Taiwan? The US? All of them are very innovative countries.

Is Israel participating in some sort of EU program that those other countries aren't?

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u/gookman European Union 1d ago

Your question was:

Why do actual EU countries get so much less?!

My reply is exactly about that. If you're looking for some nefarious reason there isn't one. Lack of education is a big factor in lack of innovation.

If you want to know about Israel I believe other users have answered that question.

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u/shatureg 1d ago

You're cutting off the first part of my comment: "Forget about the UK." I was clearly implying "I understand why the UK gets so little given that it's no longer in the EU". But it also doesn't surprise me that the UK or Norway get funding given how closely they are interlinked with the EU economy. For the UK it might still be leftover commitments post-Brexit. For Norway, it's literally in the single market.

Why Israel? Why not South Korea? Feel free to answer the question. You don't need to imply that I'm a nazi. I'm not a nazi. It's a legitimate question even though the name of the country is Israel, believe it or not.

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u/gookman European Union 1d ago

Sounds like you just want to argue with people online. Have a nice day.

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u/shatureg 1d ago

No, I'm literally just asking a question (No this is not a dog whistle, don't freak out). I'm not gonna argue with you if you just provide an answer (which you haven't despite your claims).

Is Israel part of some sort of EU program for collaborative research? I know I could google it at this point, but it's very interesting how difficult it seems for a certain type of person to answer simple questions once the name Israel is dropped. If you just point me to such a program, the above list would make somewhat sense again.

EDIT: I googled it myself now. Israel is part of Horizon Europe.

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u/Unlucky_Mess3884 12h ago

That is correct. Israel pays into the Horizon Europe program, whereas the US, S. Korea, and Taiwan do not.