r/europe Poland 2d ago

News Teenagers in Poland are organizing "hoe patrols". They harass and record teenage girls in malls while wearing "ho patrol" vests

https://wyborcza.biz/biznes/7,177150,32212885,patrole-pilnowaly-granic-dzieciaki-pilnuja-teraz-dziewczyn.html
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u/ZuzBla 2d ago

Prelude to follow-up headlines - teen males in Poland report loneliness epidemic.

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u/Parking_Pineapple143 1d ago

I mean even if that happens, the Polish teen males who are reporting loneliness might not be the same Polish teen males who are organizing the hoe patrols. Both things can be happening at the same time

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u/Blueskyways 2d ago

Half convinced that the incel thing is a fucking op setup to make young men angry, stupid and single, perfect recruits for all kinds of heinous shit.  

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u/EebilKitteh The Netherlands 2d ago

It is. Angry, disappointed people are the easiest target.

Meanwhile the gap between boys and girls is widening. Most (not all) women would rather be single than be with these types even if that means not having a family.

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u/TSllama Europe 2d ago

It literally is. Fascists found a way to manipulate young men, prey on their insecurities, and turn them into fascist sympathizers.

They make young men into hateable humans and people that no girl can stand to be around, then they make the young men believe that it's the girls' faults and blame feminism and whatever. Then they're susceptible to the fascist pipeline.

I have male former students who've told me about this first-hand, about how they were sucked down that pipeline for a spell before they managed to get out.

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u/Dog_seeker_420 1d ago

As a long time biology nerd I'm not suprised by all of this in the slightest. "The male loneliness" and everything adjacent to it is a sympthom of different reproductive strategies and behaviours of males and females. Either we start treating transhumanism seriously and do something about it or we won't survive this century. Mark my words.

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u/TSllama Europe 1d ago

Eh, it's not really that - female loneliness is believed to be just as high, but it gets ignored.

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u/Carbonatite 13h ago

Because by and large women don't start violent terroristic movements - they just continue living their lives.

There's an overwhelming demographic skew in the perpetrators of mass casualty events.

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u/TSllama Europe 12h ago

Yeah, we know men are much more violent than women, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the incorrect argument I was responding to.

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u/JiskiLathiUskiBhains 1d ago

Sounds similar to boomer dad's saying they didnt respect women until they had a daughter

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u/Xenon009 1d ago

I've been there, it's real. Some people escape it, and some people don't. But its very real

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u/silly-_-123 1d ago

it's not even conspirology, at this point making people angry and scared over made-up bullshit is something Sun Tzu would've written if he made 'The Art of War' but for mass politics. oddly this time it's not some tiny minority like the gays or arabs but literally 50% of the population. dimensional merge must be coming i guess

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u/ConstructionOne6654 1d ago

"incels" have always existed, it's only recently that they were given a name

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u/Backyard_Intra 1d ago edited 1d ago

This. The loneliness epidemic started first, incel came later as some heinous people saw vulnerable young people and thought "hey, we can make a cult out of this!”

I think it's important to keep this in mind when dealing with people who identify as such. It's a fine line between not tolerating bullshit, but also not driving them deeper into the arms of this movement.

And maybe acknowledge that boys and men are increasingly struggling to find meaning because society has failed to catch up with modern gender roles and education fails to engage them.

We don't have to go backwards, we have to go forwards. The women's role has improved for the better (until recently at least), but they remain relatively unchanged for men. They are simultaneously expected to do the same thing they always were, yet no longer can do.

So step 1 is to stop shaming men for living with their parents, for not having had (loads) of sex - i.e. for not excelling in their (old fashioned) gender role. Every shaming incels for their loneliness and celibacy is actively contributing to the problem.

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u/Carbonatite 13h ago

The problem is that people conflate them being rightfully shamed for their violent misogyny with being shamed for their relationship status.

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u/Aware-Location-1932 1d ago

It always was. Restrict the sexuality of men and you get a weak-willed army that does everything you want them to do. Done by religions and extremist regimes for thousands of years.

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u/DocFail 1d ago

Unconvince yourself. It’s the real deal and part of the eternal cycle that always reboots this fascist shit. 

We have to figure out how to break the cycle. Maybe in the 39th century.

Until then it will continue to be utilized by authoritarians of all stripes.

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u/Carbonatite 13h ago

Literally the same group that gets exploited as cannon fodder by extremist leaders going back centuries. ISIS does the same thing today - take angry men who are unsuccessful with women and radicalize them into willing human sacrifices for their agenda.

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u/AllHailNibbler 1d ago

When you demonize men from their birth to the end of their life, you cant be surprised when men become "incels".

Men and women are to blame for incels, anyone telling you any different is either femcel or a incel.

This world needs a massive reset

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u/Sithrak Welp 1d ago

"Polish women criticized for choosing to remain single. Radical feminists suspected for making women not like men who consider them subhuman."

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u/Bloomhunger 1d ago

Something something affirmative action… men have it so bad nowadays!!! /s

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u/mmarkusz97 Poland 1d ago

mate that epidemic is omnipresent, im 28

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u/StraightFromUranus 1d ago

Jokes on you, we've been seeing headlines like this for quite some time now

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u/Excellent-Sir-9324 2d ago

Its girls or mixed gender groups doing the patrols. Please read about it.

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u/standupstrawberry 2d ago

The article is pay walled but the only image is three boys doing it with no girls.

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u/Excellent-Sir-9324 2d ago

Please read the article.

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u/standupstrawberry 2d ago

It is paywalled.

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u/Mormegil81 Austria 1d ago

If you provide the text. It is paywalled.

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u/ZuzBla 1d ago

Even iranian "morality" police has women. Women hating women, Nice girlstm and pick-mes. Dang it, I hate I know this particular lingo. Girls are in for a surprise when they realize that nope, those guys will not treat them any better than those "slutty" girls.

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u/Whitechix United Kingdom 1d ago

Teenagers (both male and female) doing something horrific but let’s laugh lonely men, can’t believe people are actually surprised men are unfortunately rejecting left wing ideas.

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u/def_not_jose 1d ago

This is a consequence of loneliness epidemic, not the source