r/europe • u/umotex12 Poland • 2d ago

News Teenagers in Poland are organizing "hoe patrols". They harass and record teenage girls in malls while wearing "ho patrol" vests

https://wyborcza.biz/biznes/7,177150,32212885,patrole-pilnowaly-granic-dzieciaki-pilnuja-teraz-dziewczyn.html
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u/Ill-Egg4008 1d ago

Are they 9? Are they 11?

These aren’t kids. If they are old enough to go harassing ppl and make videos at the mall, they are old enough to know better.

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u/Pancernywiatrak Poland 1d ago

Listen, 14 is still a child. They’re not “almost adults” (17). They look like 8-15.

It’s like saying “if this 8 year old can shoplift then he knows enough to not to do it” when an adult could be manipulating this child into it, and they had no idea it really is bad like everyone else says, because XYZ it’s not at they trust them.

Teenage boys with no anger outlet are served Tate’s or manosphere content algorithmically.

And they cling to it because it gives them that outlet and validates their anger. It’s like a drug. Everything is suddenly so easy, the answers are always there and simple.

You should hear men who exited the alt-right pipeline, this is almost verbatim what they say

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u/Might0fHeaven 1d ago

I didnt do this when I was 14. Nobody I know did this when they were 14. If someone does this at 14 years old, they need to be severely disciplined so they grow up normal and learn how to behave. Theres no point in defending them, they'll only become worse from here

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u/Pancernywiatrak Poland 1d ago

I am not defending them. They did wrong. I am saying they’re jackasses. But that they need to be educated and taught. Something like an apology video made by these boys would be a very good idea. This is where you need education and rehabilitation.

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u/Might0fHeaven 1d ago

The issue is that the right wing grifters they listen to already accounted for that. Educational institutions are the first thing they go for. They make young people distrust them, call them woke, etc. Its difficult to rehabilitate a person like this unless they escape the pipeline themselves or their friends make them do so

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u/juliagou1ia 1d ago

Literally you being like “boys will be boys” don’t punish them, praise them! Make them feel special for harassing women…

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u/Pancernywiatrak Poland 1d ago

No, the fuck I’m not. I am not saying “boys will be boys”.

Nowhere did I say they should be praised.

I gave you an explanation on why they possibly did it. Not a justification.

They should face consequences and get disciplinary action taken against them. Also to educate them on why the thing they did was wrong.

This isn’t “boys will be boys” this is morality police behavior. And that needs to be quickly addressed and stopped. This is unacceptable.

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u/juliagou1ia 1d ago

Someone made comment saying they are old enough to know better and you responded saying “no they’re kids, they just might listen to Andrew Tate” as a way to justify the behaviour.

At no point in your original comment did you condemn the behaviour nor did you suggest an alternative. You literally went “these are boys who are angry so they do this” which, despite what you think, without further context validates the behaviour especially since you were responding to someone actually condemning the behaviour.

Glad you know this is unacceptable though.

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u/Pancernywiatrak Poland 1d ago

Explanation of their behavior isn’t an excuse for their behavior. I didn’t justify it, I named why they might do it. None of what they’re doing is right.

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u/juliagou1ia 1d ago

Again, glad we are on the same page. But you seem to be flip flopping.

In your original comment you say verbatim:

“The issue is that these are kids that are doing it. They don’t know the extent of their actions”

Which is an excuse for their actions. “They don’t know the extent” when they are old enough to understand that it is wrong is excusing their behaviour.

They should know better. And can’t imagine any of them would want to be followed around and harassed. Yes maybe it’s an issue of educating them but honestly it’s equally as possible they know this isn’t okay but are doing it any way because they like the power/ feelings the manosphere gives them. Which is still inexcusable and not a justification for this behaviour and they should be punished.

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u/Ok-Weakness-3206 1d ago

14 almost have developed cognitive abilities on par with adults par of the ability to resist peer pressure, they already know right from wrong, and can reason/deduce the consequences of their actions

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u/FactorTop8356 1d ago

Everyone under 18 is a kid. Parents are responsible for them.