r/europe 2d ago

2-year-old Angelina killed from the Russian air attack and her teddy bear

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u/ZVom_PL 1d ago

I don't think anybody blames you for defending your home. Do what you've got to do.

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u/GraXXoR 1d ago

What? Trump and Vance do!! They’ve said as much multiple times.

“If Zelenskyy hadn’t started it the Russians wouldn’t have needed to defend themselves”

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u/ZVom_PL 1d ago

You were actually correct sir. He clearly said it when highly agitated. That was wrong

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u/ZVom_PL 1d ago

No they didn't. Nobody with clear mind would've said that zelenskyy did start it. Another thing is that other nations should not feel obliged to support war effort indefinitely. It wears them down too.

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u/Synnyyyy 1d ago

I thought he was exaggerating but sadly no. Trump really did say this.

"Donald Trump has again blamed Volodymyr Zelensky for starting the war with Russia – a day after a major Russian attack killed 35 people and injured 117 others in the Ukrainian city of Sumy.

The US president said Ukraine's leader shared the blame with Russian President Vladimir Putin for the "millions of people dead" in the conflict.

"You don't start a war against someone 20 times your size and then hope that people give you some missiles," he said at the White House on Monday."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg5q0mev07lo

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u/Mike_Kermin Australia 1d ago

It wears them down too.

Bullshit.

Western countries are not "worn down" by it in the slightest.

Your claim "nobody blames them" is doing hard work on behalf of fascist types.

At best, you're ignorant.

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u/ZVom_PL 1d ago

That's crazy level of bias here. I am stating a fact. You are the only ignorant here. I was mistaken when it comes to trump's words and I openly admitted to it.

The prolonged support is really taking its toll on all western nations that do support ukraine whether you like it or not. One of the ways to support ukraine is not buying the gas from russia. You want to tell me it is not wearing down western countries? Think a little. Make sure you are not ignorant before you call that on someone who simply disagrees with your POV.

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u/Mike_Kermin Australia 1d ago

It's not even close to a fact. What are you talking about.

The west can keep this up indefinitely with ease. Russia is simply a smaller country trying to bully a bigger neighbour, it will lose.

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u/Not_Bee_Si 1d ago

Your comment opened my eyes and liberated me from pessimistic thoughts

Now, we are safe and sound