r/europe • u/JackRogers3 • 2d ago

News Newly discovered document adds evidence that Shroud of Turin is not Jesus' crucifixion shroud

https://www.euronews.com/culture/2025/08/29/newly-discovered-document-adds-evidence-that-shroud-of-turin-is-not-jesus-crucifixion-shro
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u/AdMean6001 1d ago

Honestly, who believed that? It was debunked by science decades ago. Since 1988, we have known that it dates back to the 13th or 14th century... even the bishop of Turin at the time accepted the findings.

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u/Otsde-St-9929 1d ago

As someone who works with C14 dating I can tell you doubt was reasonable.

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u/berejser These Islands 1d ago

There is a lot more evidence than just C14. Like the fact that the method of weaving used to make the cloth hadn't been developed during the 1st Century but was in common use around the time the shroud first shows up. Or the fact that the image of Jesus is holding his arms in a way that would be anatomically impossible. Or the fact that 1st Century Jewish burial practices didn't use one single shroud but instead used one for the body and a separate one for the head.

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u/Otsde-St-9929 1d ago

There is a lot more evidence than just C14. Like the fact that the method of weaving used to make the cloth hadn't been developed during the 1st Century but was in common use around the time the shroud first shows up.

They call it 3:1 herringbone twill. We have nearly linen from the period and no looms from Israel. I am sceptical that we really know for sure its history and if it was present in the first century in the region. Herring bone twill appear at Pompei (79 AD), not the same type, but we do have the exact same type from the late Roman world in wool. https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2002/2002.03.29/ So its not much of a stretch that would appear in linen 100-300 years earlier.

Or the fact that the image of Jesus is holding his arms in a way that would be anatomically impossible.

I dont know about this argument. I will read up on it.

Or the fact that 1st Century Jewish burial practices didn't use one single shroud but instead used one for the body and a separate one for the head. That doesnt seem a strong argument. They may have had variation.