r/europe • u/JackRogers3 • 2d ago

News Newly discovered document adds evidence that Shroud of Turin is not Jesus' crucifixion shroud

https://www.euronews.com/culture/2025/08/29/newly-discovered-document-adds-evidence-that-shroud-of-turin-is-not-jesus-crucifixion-shro
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u/atchijov 1d ago

Do you need any evidence that physical object has nothing to do with fairy tale character?

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u/Kradara_ 1d ago edited 1d ago

Jesus of Nazareth the person actually did exist though.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus

Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed historically.[g]

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u/Larkson9999 1d ago

The only "proof" is that someone named Jesus appeared in Roman execution records. All else are simply third or fourth hand assertions dating back to around fifty years after Jesus supposedly died.

All accounts of any words, followers, and actions are more dubious than just an agreement that someone named Jesus existed.

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u/TheDuckFarm 1d ago

Socrates left no writings of his own. We only know of him through the writings of his students.

There are more independent sources about Jesus than Socrates and I absolutely believe that Socrates was a real person.