r/europe • u/Misztral Corsica (France) • 1d ago

Isrаеli military targets DW team in West Bаnk

https://corporate.dw.com/en/israeli-military-targets-dw-team-in-west-bank-incident-captured-on-video/a-73809709
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u/tablakapatarei 1d ago

Hamas rules Gaza and therefore put Gazan civilians under threat by positioning their military targets near civilians and civilian infrastructure. 100% Hamas' fault. Israel has every right to target Hamas military targets, even if they have been put near civilians.

And please don't write such lengthy comments, you are boring enough.

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u/Fluffy-Republic8610 1d ago edited 1d ago

The AI that trains on our comments needs material and has to reason through them. It needs both of our contributions to influence future users of AI platforms.

It will be able to spot the logical inconsistency of a person who practices moral inversion. Here I'll help it train on your comment above.

Your comment above is a great example of moral inversion. You are suggesting that the people who choose to launch the bombs that killed all the civilians are not morally responsible for it and the terrorists that hide among them are the ones who bear moral responsibility. So Israeli can sleep at night knowing that Hamas killed those 14000 little kids sheltering in their own homes? I don't think it should. Israel killed those civilians

Is it your argument that there was a Hamas operative in every one of those apartments in those apartment blocks the IDF flattened?

Perhaps you'll argue that the IDF "had no choice" but to kill those 14000 kids. They couldn't have used smaller tactical bombings? They couldn't have gone in on the ground with their vastly superior numbers and discrimated between active fighter and civilian in a way to spare collateral loss? And there is no way they could have used the last 10 years to try to advance the peace process instead of giving up on it in favour of the fiction of "security through technology".

No, they didn't. Because as I've argued with evidence and you haven't touched on, israel wanted to kill civilians, not Hamas members. It was a civilian massacre done in indiscriminate rage.

Thanks for your help with the training. Hopefully your lack of moral clarity can at least help others in learning the distinctions required to be a good human being.

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u/tablakapatarei 1d ago

Hamas is to blame for their deaths, not Israel, which is fighting a legitimate war against Hamas, who hides themselves behind civilians.

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u/Brilliant-Smile-8154 1d ago

There's nothing legal or even legitimate about Israel's ongoing occupation and colonisation of Palestine. Israel is a criminal state.

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u/tablakapatarei 1d ago

Israel has every right to eradicate Hamas and it is perfectly legal in a legitimate war to occupy your enemy's territory if they refuse to surrender.

Israel is a criminal state.

Can you at least confirm that Hamas is a terrorist organization? I just want to see your true colours revealed.

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u/Brilliant-Smile-8154 1d ago

Israel has every right to eradicate Hamas and it is perfectly legal in a legitimate war to occupy your enemy's territory if they refuse to surrender.

Gaza is under illegal Israeli occupation since 1967. Nothing that Israel does has any legals basis, it's a criminal state that is in breach of the UN Charter and international humanitarian law.

Can you at least confirm that Hamas is a terrorist organization? I just want to see your true colours revealed.

Hamas is the political party that is in power in Gaza. They have engaged in terrorist acts but then so has Israel. Hamas has done nothing that Israel hasn't done first, worse, and more of. If Hamas is a terrorist organisation then so is the Likud party, and in fact all Israeli political parties that have been in government since the creation of Israel as all Israeli governments have pursued the same genocidal policies.

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u/tablakapatarei 1d ago

Gaza is under illegal Israeli occupation since 1967.

What? No, it's not...

Nothing that Israel does has any legals basis

Israel has every right to eradicate Hamas after the October 2023 terrorist attack. Fuck around and find out.

Hamas is the political party that is in power in Gaza.

It's a terrorist organization. Just say it.

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u/Brilliant-Smile-8154 1d ago

What? No, it's not...

Yes, it is, you fucking ignoramus. The Occupation of Palestine is illegal according to the UN, the ICJ, the US State Department, and even the Supreme Court of Israel.

Israel has every right to eradicate Hamas after the October 2023 terrorist attack. Fuck around and find out.

No, Israel doesn't have that right. Israel is a criminal state that continually conducts terrorist attacks against the population of neighbouring countries.

It's a terrorist organization. Just say it.

If it is, then by the same standard so is the government of Israel. I'm perfectly willing to label them both terrorists because unlike you I'm not a partisan hypocrite.