r/europe • u/Dazzling_Lobster3656 • 1d ago

Irish protester ‘repeatedly punched in the face by police’ during Gaza protest in Berlin

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/irish-protester-repeatedly-punched-in-the-face-by-police-during-gaza-protest-in-berlin/a249856773.html
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u/vandrag Ireland 1d ago

The bot farms were ready for this one. Go go power brigaders.

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u/OneGoodAssSyllabus 1d ago

“Brutalizing protestors is fine, actually”

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u/masiakasaurus Europe 1d ago

"This is just how normal demonstrations are handled"

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u/Agile_Competition_28 1d ago

A wojak would go great right in here

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u/recursivereader 1d ago

Protests should be a space for peaceful demonstration and dialogue, not violence. It's important for authorities to reassess their approach to ensure people can protest safely....... The use of excessive force by police only fuels further anger and division.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/ZestycloseGur8108 1d ago edited 1d ago

You're the bot, in every thread defending Israel and attacking protesters. So far you got 9 of the 88 comments in this one.

edit: The guy blocked me, so I can't respond to anything he writes. I would say people should look at his comment history, but he hides that for obvious reasons.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/chechekov 1d ago

And that warrants getting punched in the face several times (a punch can potentially also kill a person) and getting an arm broken? The fuck??

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u/Remmidemmi 1d ago

The protests only got violent when the police did

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

Has a video of the incident surfaced yet?

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u/molochz Ériu 1d ago

Yeah, I haven't really been paying much attention to the story, but I've seen the video pop up around three times now.

It's actually pretty shocking stuff. There was no need for the violence towards here.

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u/mcchicken16 1d ago

on high speed today

You have like 20+ comments in a 45minute old thread.

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u/Either-Detective-479 1d ago

I don’t understand, are you like pro Ukraine, anti Palestine? Imperialism is fine as long as it’s not your country?

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u/sjedinjenoStanje USA/Croatia 1d ago

I am. I'm against the entities that initiated wars against their neighbors that they seek to destroy because they don't consider them a legitimate country. Hamas started a war to destroy Israel, and Russia started a war to destroy Ukraine.

It's really not all that hard unless you have a hard-on for Israel, which about half of Europeans and most Arabs/Muslims do for obvious reasons.

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u/Weirdo9495 Europe 1d ago

Same here. Although i do not justify the police violence in question.

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u/sjedinjenoStanje USA/Croatia 1d ago

Same. Idiots should be able to protest on behalf of racist Islamists if they want to, and sane people should be able to counterprotest and ridicule them as the Chickens for KFC activists they are.

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u/Sexul_constructivist 1d ago

The thing is being in a defensive war doesn't absolve you from the rule of war. After Isreal continued with attacking Syria, Lebanon and constantly disregarding the safety of civilians and journalist, I can jo longer defend them.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/LegitimateCompote377 United Kingdom 1d ago

Iran and Ukraine actively cooperated to remove Russian influence in Sudan for the RSF (which succeeded) and Syria (former Iranian Russia ally) is no longer a problem, and Shahed style drones are primarily manufactured in Russia with them being less dependent on Iran than ever before.

It is not just simply US Axis vs China backed world. It’s a lot more complicated, and for the most part now Iran and Israel is separate from Russia and Ukraine, and Russia had mixed relations with both countries, just like Ukraine. Israel in a lot of ways is much closer to Russia than Iran, especially when it comes to diaspora, despite all the “condemnations” at the UN.

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u/PaddyMakNestor 1d ago

For someone that doesn't care you are commenting a lot....

Imagine going out of your way to defend the side murdering innocent civilians when you don't care about something.

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u/noorderlijk 1d ago

We can't stop you from writing bullshit, but at least learn how to close parentheses properly.

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u/_Djkh_ The Netherlands 1d ago

Some people are against fascism, whether it's winning or losing.

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u/Low_Mistake_7748 1d ago

Fascinating how it's always bot farms when the narrative isn't aligned with the sub :)

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u/onarainyafternoon Dual Citizen (American/Hungarian) 1d ago

Huh? Yeah, that's exactly how it works. If the narrative shifts drastically from what it would normally be in this sub, then it's obviously being manipulated by outside forces. Your comment is so weird.

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u/CthulhusSoreTentacle Ireland 1d ago

It's a two month old account with a generic randomised name "Something_Something_Numbers". Not saying all users like this are bots/trolls, but there's a strong correlation.

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u/reddit-is-a-cunt 1d ago

Thank god thats not my naming scheme, thought I was a meant to be botting for a sec

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u/Forzyr 1d ago

It's an username generated automatically by default on reddit, so they're often bots or throwaway accounts.

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u/Doyoulikemyjorts 1d ago

Is this not perfectly on brand for this sub tho? It's one notch down from r/world news when it comes to Palestine.

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u/CalligoMiles Utrecht (Netherlands) 1d ago

The point is that bot farms aren't unique to the side you dislike. Or did we already forget how the whole Scottish independence movement fell silent when the Iranian internet got blown up, or the absolute piles of evidence on how they support absolutely anything and everything vaguely aligned against Israel and the West with the online narratives they push?

Just because you agree with a sentiment doesn't mean it can't also be heavily pushed by bots all the time.

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u/Bhdrbyr Turkey 1d ago

The point is that bot farms aren't unique to the side you dislike.

Opposing police brutality is being on some kind of side now? Oh well it looks like the right side to be on then lol

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u/CalligoMiles Utrecht (Netherlands) 1d ago edited 1d ago

Well, if you insist on being dense - even when you're objectively right on a point, that sentiment is still being amplified and exaggerated by bot farms too as part of the broader sides in the conflict it relates to. And Iran and its proxies have been doing that a whole lot bigger and better than Israel over the entire past decade if not longer.

Pointing it out as if it only happens when you disagree with what they're pushing just displays your lack of critical thinking and inability to form thoughts beyond what your tribe has declared good and evil.

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u/Low_Mistake_7748 1d ago edited 1d ago

Or, you know... people don't necessarily agree on every single topic. Mind-blowing and radical, I know. But then again, with the speed non-agreeable accounts are banned from subs, it makes sense the rest of the users considers any other opinion a bot.

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u/lasttimechdckngths Europe 1d ago

We all know that there are enough dedicated scum to bring in hordes, but it's hardly deniable that there are bots when it comes to this particular issue at least.

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u/Shadow_Gabriel Romania 1d ago

Especially when bots are used to promote pro-Hamas rhetoric.

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u/Nachtwacht12 1d ago

The fact that those comments get to stay on top says enough about the alleged bot usage. It doesn't exist, and they don't like people have different opinions, and will be elitarian while suppressing those opinions and then be surprised theres a civil war in a few years

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u/vomicyclin Berlin (Germany) 1d ago

"everyone with another opinion than me has to be a bot."

Your bubble is showing...

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u/Toums95 1d ago

Look at any polls. People tend to be quite fed up about Israel and their government stance about it. I think you are the one in a bubble buddy

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u/MiloticM2 1d ago

Look at any poll about Muslim terrorist governments and you’ll see people are pretty fed up. I don’t think you’re capable of critical thought.

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u/11160704 Germany 1d ago

When an Irish person is upset about the Irish government, they should protest in Dublin and not in Berlin.

The German government is not the Irish people's government.

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u/Toums95 1d ago

If the Irish person in question lives in Germany, they could protest the Irish government from Berlin. I see no issue with that.

Also if you live in Germany you are immersed in German society, possibly even contributing to it with your taxes. So you have all the right to be upset about what the German government does.

Last point, the European Union is an attempt to unify countries based on geography, history, society, beliefs, born from the ashes of a devastating war stemming from hate and division. As such, we are pushing for a European mindset and allow free movement of people and goods. I myself feel more European than Italian for example. Protesting (not necessarily about the genocide our politicians are enabling, I talk more in general) is something any European citizen should do regardless of the country in the union they live in. If to this you add that Germany is the beating heart of the European Union, it becomes even more important.

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u/11160704 Germany 1d ago

Might all be true but then the assumption of the comment I replied to is wrong.

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u/Toums95 1d ago

Sure, you can defnitely focus on the use of "their" instead of the idea conveyed which I think is quite straightforward. It's a choice

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u/11160704 Germany 1d ago

The idea conveyed is just wrong

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u/Toums95 1d ago

Why?

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u/SuggestionMedical736 The Netherlands 1d ago

Today, I learned that you can only stand up for basic human rights in the country for which you hold a passport. Thanks.

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u/11160704 Germany 1d ago

Read the previous comment again. It said people are upset about "their government"

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u/SuggestionMedical736 The Netherlands 1d ago

It's ironic how, when we protest against our government, they say we can't do anything, as the EU decides on the sanctions and our policy. But when we try to protest against one of the biggest hurdles of the EU not taking action, they say, Why are you not protesting your own country.

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u/11160704 Germany 1d ago

No that's not what I said. Better read it again

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u/SuggestionMedical736 The Netherlands 1d ago

Stop trying to pretend you're that deep. You made a judgment that she is upset with the Irish government, which you made up or got from one of your Facebook groups.

I am Dutch, and I am also angry at the German government. Because you consistently block any action we can take to make progress on this issue.

I never want to hear a German brag about how they learn about genocide and war crimes from birth, because it's clear, you didn't learn shit.

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u/11160704 Germany 1d ago

I did not get that from a Facebook group, I got it directly from the comment I replied to. You can read it up.

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u/vomicyclin Berlin (Germany) 1d ago edited 1d ago

Who is interest in polls? If you get asked something on the street and have to give one of four or five answers doesn't mean you care. It means you answered the question and go on about your day. Nobody cares. Israel understands that the whole political theater and virtue signaling is nothing worth giving any attention.

Israel literally is better than ever. Most enemy groups have lost support and Hamas is a shadow of it former self. The only thing that happens is that some states now say they will (maybe) recognize Palestine. Aka they do nothing at all.

But please.. think whatever makes you happy. The real world goes on.

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u/The-Nihilist-Marmot Portugal 1d ago

If no one cared you wouldn’t be here.

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u/vomicyclin Berlin (Germany) 1d ago

Yeah because an individual arguing with you kids is the same as the world caring about your little gatherings. Sure

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u/The-Nihilist-Marmot Portugal 1d ago edited 1d ago

I’m not saying that I’m one of those who’s pro-little gatherings or whatever. But what I’m seeing here is that you’re getting abnormally worked up about something that supposedly doesn’t matter, according to yourself.

The real world does indeed go on, and that goes for the fools that somehow think what is going down in Gaza will go well for Germany, Europe and the West as a whole.

Best case scenario, you antagonize half of the world and land on Russia’s trap, paving the way for the Mother of all Whatabouts with regards to the genocide that will go down in Ukraine within 5 to 10 years if the US terminally shits its pants.

Worst case scenario, you’ll be getting the above but also trigger another refugee crisis in the Middle East (on top of the one you’ll probably get from Ukraine / Eastern Europe) and you’ll have the Syrian Civil War mk2. That went well for everyone, as I’m sure you’ll recall.

It would be better if everyone just didn’t care over having some of you who supposedly “don’t care” ruining our position and rendering us more fragile over what really matters, and that we can do something about, and that is within a 2 hours flight of where you live.

If you really don’t care, then shut up, leave the little kids brandish their Palestinian flags, they’re nothing, but at least don’t spoil your / our position by defending the indefensible and then wonder in a few decades from now about “how our leadership was so short sighted for missing the obvious foreseeable aftershocks of the Gaza Crisis”.

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u/vomicyclin Berlin (Germany) 1d ago

"You're getting abnormally worked up about something..." while you write literally six paragraphs trying to make a point is quite funny.

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u/The-Nihilist-Marmot Portugal 1d ago edited 1d ago

But, unlike you, I never said the whole thing didn’t matter.

And, crucially, I wrote all of that sitting on my toilet and even managed not to disparage anyone as being “kids”. Now that’s funny.

If this is getting worked up, boy, do you have some reading to do! Sorry for all the fancy words.

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u/IdiAmini 1d ago

Germans trying not be a fan of genocide, impossible

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u/Toums95 1d ago

Whatever you say. Also notice how you quickly went from "Palestinian supporters are in a bubble" to "Maybe that's not true but nevertheless whatever they do doesn't matter". Keep moving the goalpost.

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u/vomicyclin Berlin (Germany) 1d ago

Palestinian supporters are not on a Bubble.

The „everybody with another opinion than me has to be a bot”-crowd is in a bubble. But nice try.

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u/Warm_Pool8092 1d ago

Israel is literally so better than ever that is now isolated worldwide, killed all its neighbours.. congratulations! Enjoy another 100 years of ruined reputation for your actions

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u/vomicyclin Berlin (Germany) 1d ago

It literally has better relations with Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan than ever before. The Oct. 11 attack was literally trying to sabotage the ties between the states..

And what exactly do you mean by isolated?

Israel has to this day de facto no real consequences at all. The only thing that happened was Portugal and Ireland saying that wouldn’t but things they didn’t buy in the first place…

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u/EcstaticYesterday605 Ireland 1d ago

Israel literally is better than ever.

I suppose they did a good job a perfecting the art of ethnic cleansing using more sophisticated technology.

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u/SuggestionMedical736 The Netherlands 1d ago

Yeah, go Israel. We invaded Iraq because of your recommendation, found no weapons, got another couple of million civilians killed, and had to accept millions of refugees, which to this day costs money.

But hey, we served daddy Israel and their agenda, so it was worth it.

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u/TheIrishBread 1d ago

Can't wait to see your stance on the inevitable exodus from Syria and Lebanon when Israel gets done with Gaza and needs another manufactured existential crisis to stop Bibi going to court. Me thinks you will not be too receptive.

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u/vandrag Ireland 1d ago

Oh you sweet summer child.

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u/BeeWeird7940 1d ago

Why is an Irish protester in Germany?

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u/PaddyMakNestor 1d ago

There are plenty of Irish living in Germany and vice versa, freedom of movement within the EU and all that.

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u/justadubliner Ireland 1d ago

Irish people live in Germany just as German people live in Ireland. That whole EU thingy. You might have heard of it.

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u/Dazzling_Lobster3656 1d ago

Eu citizen

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u/Every-Win-7892 Lower Saxony (Germany) 1d ago

Why aren't they protesting in Ireland?

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u/Dazzling_Lobster3656 1d ago edited 1d ago

They are ...

But we aren't supplying arms

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u/Every-Win-7892 Lower Saxony (Germany) 1d ago

Then you guys should open a newspaper as Germany wasn't a big exporter in any capacity and stopped that already.

Go harass your own cops.

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u/stonkmarxist 1d ago

"Yank brigader struggles with the concept of the European Union"

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u/vomicyclin Berlin (Germany) 1d ago

you kids really just throw buzzwords around now, are you?

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u/Every-Win-7892 Lower Saxony (Germany) 1d ago

Did you open the internet in the last 20 years at least once?

Fucking Boomers, blight of this world.

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u/vomicyclin Berlin (Germany) 1d ago

Please. A little more buzzwords. I’m not sure I completely got your message.

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u/sjedinjenoStanje USA/Croatia 1d ago

Palestinians are every bit as "white" as Israelis.

And you didn't bring any of that smoke for Palestinians when they were murdering hundreds of Israeli civilians in the most gruesome ways imaginable.

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u/MiloticM2 1d ago

Everyone I disagree with is a bot

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u/_Djkh_ The Netherlands 1d ago

Yeah, yeah, that is the bot farms that are spamming articles here today, right?