r/europe • u/Dazzling_Lobster3656 • 1d ago

Irish protester ‘repeatedly punched in the face by police’ during Gaza protest in Berlin

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/irish-protester-repeatedly-punched-in-the-face-by-police-during-gaza-protest-in-berlin/a249856773.html
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u/An22x 1d ago

peaceful Palestine protesters

despite repeated orders” to leave the area, O’Brien “refused to comply and insulted verbally and offended physically, several police officers. There is clear evidence for verbal insults shouted by this individual, ranging from calling officers ‘genocide supporters’, ‘f**king Nazis’ and ‘you should be ashamed of yourselves – there are babies starving’ among many more statements made.

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u/Blueskyways 1d ago

Mean words are a green light for police to beat the hell out of someone apparently.  

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u/FrogOnABus Ireland 1d ago

Words = Violence! Is it still 2016??

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u/Ulfricosaure 1d ago

The poor little cop in body armor got assaulted by the teenage girl, boohoo

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u/RidingRedHare 1d ago

Different countries have different laws.

She and others refused to leave the area when the police tried to dissolve an illegal demonstration. That got most of the participants of this demonstration detained which in turn allows the use of force against those who resist being detained. Refusing police orders to leave the area already allows the use of force.

The demonstration was illegal because there was no identifiable organiser on site and symbols of forbidden terrorist organisations were used. Using symbols of forbidden terrorist organisations is a crime punishable with up to three years prison.

Insults are illegal under German law, maximum penalty is one year prison. Publicly insulting German cops as "Nazis" is a really bad idea because that can lead to fines of 5.000€ or more. And again, this will get you detained.

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u/2beHero 1d ago

Again: if you, as a police officer, feel threatened by someone's shouting and respond with escalation, then you are a baby with a weak nervous system and should not be in a position of authority lol.

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u/An22x 1d ago

Yes. And if you can't protest without seeking fights with the police officers, you should stay the fuck at home or deal with the consequences.

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u/Sexul_constructivist 1d ago

Of you assault somebody, because he called you names, you will go to jail for battery. Why do we hold police to a lower standard than regular civilians?

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u/An22x 1d ago

Did I say we need to hold police to lower standard? Why are y'all reading stuff that no-one wrote?

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u/Sexul_constructivist 1d ago

Yes. And if you can't protest without seeking fights with the police officers, you should stay the fuck at home or deal with the consequences.

Commenting this under a post about police beating protestors for calling them Nazis, implies the action of the police are justified or at least should've been expected. And in fact you shouldn't expect somebody to physically beat you when called a mean thing, the same way beating somebody for calling you a dick is unreasonable.

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u/An22x 1d ago

No, it does not mean it was justified in the slightest. But it does mean it should be expected that out of a group of ~100 cops, there might be one who will do unreasonable things. Y'all love calling cops the B word, but then you're acting all surprised when a B word does a bad thing? Yeah no give me a break.

And we're not just talking about saying a bad word once. We're talking about her repeatedly refusing to move away, repeatedly insulting, repeatedly moving towards the cops while continuing to insult and engaging in the physical altercation. That's literally asking for it at that point.

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u/Sea-Bend-5914 1d ago

If he is such a snowflake who isn't capable to handle the mean B word, then he needs to get suspended from the police force. At least temporarily so that he can learn from his mistake.

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u/An22x 1d ago

Imagine telling me to kms because I don't think it's smart to provoke cops.

Enjoy getting banned.

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u/bigdoinkloverperson 1d ago

Police are in function and should never resort to physical violence based on verbal abuse. If you can't do that don't become a cop lmao and you'd be chirping differently if the protestor was doing son for a cause you agree with typical hypocrisy

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u/An22x 1d ago

I literally agreed. Jesus Christ. Y'all are reading whatever the fuck you want.

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u/bigdoinkloverperson 1d ago

You didn't, saying if you're looking for fights (i.e. In this context protesting I mean that's already says a lot using the word fight) with police you should stay home that implied you think the consequences are justified or at least normal.

Maybe learn to write before accusing others of not being able to read

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u/An22x 1d ago

I agreed that this cop shouldn't be in a position of authority and then you jump at me all mad telling me that this cop shouldn't be a cop. And somehow I'm the one that can't read here? Holy fuck.

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u/ValeteAria 1d ago

The police is getting paid to do their job. If they cant do it they shouldnt be at the job.

If some words make you assault someone, then you are not fit to be a cop. It is that simple. Protesters are there to protest. In their free time. They aint getting paid.

The police officer is there because he is getting paid. So do your fucking job.

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u/An22x 1d ago

Exactly, they're doing their job. And their job was to clear the area. The protesters had Platzverweis, so the police had to make them move to a different location. If you can't understand that the cops were just doing their job, but instead go out of your way to insult them and seek physical confrontation while ignoring their order, I have zero sympathy for you. It's literally called fck around and find out. 

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u/ValeteAria 1d ago

Exactly, they're doing their job. And their job was to clear the area.

You can also clear the area by shooting at everyone. Do you think thats a smart idea?

The protesters had Platzverweis, so the police had to make them move to a different location.

Right and you can do that in ways that dont require punching someone until their nose starts bleeding. What happend to using a baton against their thigh or other body parts?

If you can't understand that the cops were just doing their job, but instead go out of your way to insult them and seek physical confrontation while ignoring their order, I have zero sympathy for you. It's literally called fck around and find out. 

Their job is to clear out the area. Not to beat up citizens. You can tell someone to leave your house without beating them up. I understand that it might be difficult to understand for people who arent civilized.

The police is supposed to clear out the area. Not turn it into fight club. They are taught how to clear an area. They have batons. You can use those batons or push people. You use them on non-lethal areas. You dont start punching people in the face. How is that supposed to make them leave the area? You punch someone in the face to hurt them.

I dont care for your sympathy. I highly doubt you got space for sympathy in that brain of yours. But sure, just dont complain when life hits you with the find out phase.

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u/An22x 1d ago

Look, another person that can't read.

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u/lifeandtimes89 Ireland 1d ago

And if you can't protest without seeking fights with the police officers

Bruh what?

Seeking fights? Where in the video is she or anyone "seeking" fights?

Its a protest, a legally given right

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u/An22x 1d ago

If a cop tells you to move because you have freaking Platzverweis, but you repeatedly decide to move towards them while repeatedly insulting them, that is seeking fights in my books.

And no, there is no right to protest wherever the fuck you want. Protests need to be angemeldet und you have certain routes that you need to stick to, in order not to obstruct businesses, traffic etc, which these protesters willingly violated, so the cops Had to make them move.

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u/Lefaid US in Netherlands 1d ago

As you can see, it is a very valid strategy as well. Why listen to a cop when provoking them will lead to more moral outrage in your favour?

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u/An22x 1d ago

Yup, and a lot of commenters even take pride in that.

"Of course a protest should have inconveniences! Cause all the inconveniences!! We can violate laws as much as we want, but then we'll cry hysterically when a cop turns out to be a human instead of a flawless robot 🤭"

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u/lifeandtimes89 Ireland 1d ago

Lol I'm all for protesting as long as it doesn't bother me or anyone else, sure they may as well go protest in a field then.

If it wasn't for protesting then there would be no change. But sure enjoy being genocide enablers. Nothing in this video gives that man the right to punch this woman repeatedly in the face

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u/An22x 1d ago

I never said that the man had the right to punch her, but of course it doesn't surprise me that none of y'all can read.

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u/Sea-Bend-5914 1d ago

Of course it doesn't surprise you because they are behaving like Straßenschläger with their police brutality.

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u/elPerroAsalariado 1d ago

If a protest doesn't inconvenience anyone... Who would ever listen to it?

Have you seen the video? She was repeatedly hit in the face without a violent response from her side

Mean words

Ah yeah, that poor cop

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u/An22x 1d ago

I've seen the video, yes. The cops told them to leaves the area because they have Platzverweis. She didn't move. Cops continued to tell them they need to move in that direction. She didn't move. Cops tried to push the protestors in that direction. She literally moved towards the cops seeking confrontation. Obviously she then said some of the various insults that you can find in the press statement, so a cop punched her. And she continued to move towards them. Like bruh.

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u/elPerroAsalariado 1d ago

Have you seen any protest ever?

Are you implying what she was doing was either violent or that she had it coming?

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u/Koizito 1d ago

What do their boots taste like?

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u/An22x 1d ago

If you go into a protest with this mindset, no wonder you end up getting punched.

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u/Martzi-Pan 1d ago

Both sides are wrong.

But shouting at the cap, insulting, calling him named, etc... nah, it's bound to make him angry and lose his cool.

Protests are already an inconvenience against politicians. It's the image. It's to show you disagree with something/someone.

Police are there to protect others. We don't live in the jungle. I've been to mass protests, we didn't shout at cops, we blocked the city center, and shouted slogans against the government and even sung happy birthday to a cop... and we achieve our goal to repel a law.

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u/EdgiiLord 1d ago

With the price of countless civilians, including kids and mothers, being assaulted by the police, when a bunch of football hooligans decided to crash the protests that were already pretty tense. The police are not on your side, they will start beating the shit out of you whenever they see the right opportunity to do so with minimum backlash: in more democratic states, excuses as right to defend, in more authoritarian states, just because the protesters are considered as "terrorists".

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u/Detozi Ireland 1d ago

Where is the assault in there? Or are you just a very precious person?

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u/TheManlyManperor 1d ago

"Oh no, this woman is calling me out for defending genocide and acting like the Nazis we pretend we've outgrown! I have to punch her to prove her right!" Isn't really the argument you think it is.