r/europe • u/Dazzling_Lobster3656 • 1d ago

Irish protester ‘repeatedly punched in the face by police’ during Gaza protest in Berlin

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/irish-protester-repeatedly-punched-in-the-face-by-police-during-gaza-protest-in-berlin/a249856773.html
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u/luca3791 Denmark 1d ago

Verbal abuse of police doesn’t not constitute nor justify, punching a person in the face several times.

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u/ikarusproject Germany 1d ago

Which law allows violance against freedom of speech?

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u/ikarusproject Germany 1d ago

Um no? Freedom of speech obviously is the freedom to speak out against authority.

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u/Every-Win-7892 Lower Saxony (Germany) 1d ago

Maybe look it up instead of making it up as it pleases you.

Freedom of speech allows you to speak your mind. It does not absolve you of facing repercussions. And I'm talking about getting taken into custody, the punches to the face aren't acceptable and the responsible offers should be removed from service.

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u/ikarusproject Germany 1d ago

Moving the goalpost. Previous comment said that freedom of speech doesn't allow to speak up against government and police because surely they can't be wrong.

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u/Every-Win-7892 Lower Saxony (Germany) 1d ago

Moving the goalpost

Understanding German law.

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Not mine. I don't give a fuck what others think it is.

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u/ikarusproject Germany 1d ago

So show me the law that allows violence against freedom of speech and why this isn't.

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u/Every-Win-7892 Lower Saxony (Germany) 1d ago

Paragraph 185 and following of the German criminal code contains insults, defamations and the likes. All being punishment for the usage of free speech because again Freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences.

https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stgb/englisch_stgb.html#p1891

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u/ikarusproject Germany 1d ago

And how does this justify police violence?

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u/skylu1991 1d ago

Yeah, you’re free to speak out..

Doesn’t mean your free form any consequences though!

If you tell someone to kill or harm somebody else, it’s a crime…

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u/syrian_samuel 1d ago

wtf does “offended physically” mean? She called them fat or something?

It’s quite telling if you feel repeatedly punching someone in the face because they said a bad word is reasonable

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u/ChaosKeeshond Turkey 1d ago

Why would she call them fat? I feel like I'm missing something here as she seems larger than the officers arresting her. If she did actually call them fat she must have meant it ironically, riffing on her own weight? But then getting attacked wouldn't make any sense, because they'd have noticed such an obvious joke. I'm sorry but I'm not sure I believe you?

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u/syrian_samuel 1d ago

I didn’t say she did call them fat lol hence me saying “or something”, that’s just the first thing that popped into my head. But yes she is indeed fat so it wouldn’t make sense, but who knows

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u/Swictor 1d ago

You think police should assault people for being offensive and difficult?

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u/koi88 1d ago

well done for the police here. nobody is above the law.

Beating protestors is not lawful here in Germany.

F*ck these cops, Berlin cops are worst now.

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u/UNOvven Germany 1d ago

I know this might be shocking to you, but police are not allowed to punch people in the face even if they "disobey orders", especially if the orders in question have no legal basis to begin with. Youre especially not allowed to do so with banned quart sand gloves. This is gonna end up being a pricy lawsuit.