r/europe • u/Dazzling_Lobster3656 • 1d ago

Irish protester ‘repeatedly punched in the face by police’ during Gaza protest in Berlin

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/irish-protester-repeatedly-punched-in-the-face-by-police-during-gaza-protest-in-berlin/a249856773.html
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u/estrellaente 1d ago

I can't believe how many people justify police violence in this post. If we changed countries, would they still defend them?

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u/Rare_Opportunity2419 1d ago

Lots of people with authoritarian mindsets. They're not against jackboots stamping on the necks of dissenters if the right people are wearing them.

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u/bediaxenciJenD81gEEx 1d ago

Bots + this subreddit hates ireland

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u/Lazy-Common4741 1d ago

One of the most pro-EU countries that happens to get shit on relentlessly here

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u/MeggaMortY 1d ago

What, really? Why?

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u/MeggaMortY 1d ago

It's sad that it's working because every sort of messaging I've seen so far from that country has sounded like a poorly-written teenager's plea.

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u/Shadow_Gabriel Romania 1d ago

How's the Houthi regime?

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u/Consistent_Garlic478 The Netherlands 1d ago

As an Irish citizen it’s really for good reason. We basically spit in the face of the rest of Europe for things we have no control over and things they have no control over just so we can claim some moral high ground. Most Irish people would probably support just demonising the shit out of Israel and somehow think that will solve the problem while the Germans, French and Dutch don’t do that and actually have the Israeli government at least listening to them. The Irish people and the Irish government have just made that harder. So yeah we receive a lot of hate because we deserve it.

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u/North_Activity_5980 1d ago

“Irish citizen” me hole.

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u/Leodoug 1d ago

100%. Doesn’t have a clue

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u/ziadabdelsalam Ireland 1d ago

It's too easy to do it with bots

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u/Shadow_Gabriel Romania 1d ago edited 1d ago

What? I love Ireland. That's where Vanguard does all the BEPS on my ETFs.

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u/InformationNew66 1d ago

This is typical reddit nowdays. Radically supporting authority and politicians.

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u/lasttimechdckngths Europe 1d ago edited 1d ago

Some of those people love cops and cop violence like there's no tomorrow, unless it's some populist right-wing demonstration that gets touched a bit - while some even wouldn't mind that as they're 'centrists™'.

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u/Dazzling_Lobster3656 1d ago

Yes

This is acceptable in Russia, turkey Serbia but ....Germany no way

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u/PutnikTZ 1d ago

Wtf? This is not acceptable in Russia, Serbia, Turkey or Germany. Should not be acceptable anywhere in the World.

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u/spooky-Dragonfruit1 1d ago

Haven’t you seen police brutality in cases of those countries? They’re beating the shit out of people without any consequences, so I’d say it’s acceptable (from government’s side) as there were no cops prosecuted for such actions.

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u/wizamoku 1d ago

And that’s wrong. They should be prosecuted. But because their governments aren’t democratic, they won’t be. And I hope you’re not insinuating Germany should become undemocratc like those countries.

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u/spooky-Dragonfruit1 1d ago

That is my exact point. And I am not insinuating it, though I have seen German police beating peaceful protesters while German politicians are talking about police brutality in Serbia and Georgia. So quite cynical, don’t you think?

Now of course, I understand Germany has issues with immigrants and their refusal to assimilate, but I thought peaceful protests are basic right in democracies.

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u/justadubliner Ireland 1d ago

It been the norm by German police against pro Palestinian protesters for many years. They beat them up and arrest them. Even anti zionist Jews get the same treatment.

Germany wants to ensure the Palestinians continue to pay the price for Germanys historical sins which explains why they are more brutal than any other European country towards such protesters.

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u/Consistent_Garlic478 The Netherlands 1d ago

I don’t think you read very much German media or have even been to German if you think any of that. Come to Germany and see for yourself before you spout a lot of shite.

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u/justadubliner Ireland 1d ago

I will never step foot in a country that is second only to the US in providing the weapons for the Gazan Holocaust. I never want to step foot in the US again either for that matter.

Do you deny German facilitation of the genocide? Do you deny its continued support to this day? Do you deny that Germany arrests pro Palestinian supporters and has done for years? Did you never see the court cases taken against even anti zionist Jews in Germany? Maybe you should read your own media.

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u/Chipsy_21 1d ago

Or maybe germany just has more experience with people going „i totally don’t want to exterminate the Jews, honest, i just support the destruction of (the bankers) or (the zionists)“

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u/justadubliner Ireland 1d ago

Nope. They just prefer the Palestinians continue to pay the price for their sins so they look the other way at the total amorality of colonialist supremacy, dispossession and subjugation of the native people and now Genocide.

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u/gobocork 1d ago

So, it is totally OK to oppress and eradicate an entire population if you (rightly or wrongly) perceive them as a threat? It's that German attitude that caused all this trouble in the first place, back in the 1940s. Might be time to consider an alternative plan of action.

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u/justadubliner Ireland 1d ago

Bet your grandfather was using similar rhetoric while shoveling the 'others' into the ovens.

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u/Xegeth Germany 1d ago

As another German: "yawn". Comments like that disqualify you from any good faith discussions.

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u/IdiAmini 1d ago

Why, because it is the truth? Germany is once again, for the umpteenth time, a big proponent of a possible genocide

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u/justadubliner Ireland 1d ago

I don't know who you think you're fooling with your bigoted Islamaphobia but telling a person who has watched the atrocities perpetrated on the native Palestinians by the colonialist supremacists all my adult life to pretend Israel are the 'good guys' in this or any of the other massacres they've perpetrated down through the years is not going to work.

Even if you were unaware of the Gazan Massacres of 2008, 2012, 2014, 2018-2019 or the Freedom Flotilla Massacre of 2010 or any of the constant atrocities visited daily on the Palestinian people by the colonialist supremacists all the way back to the Nakba.... even if you knew nothing about any of that, the fact you can support The Gazan Holocaust we have all watched for 2 years tells me you are no better than your forebears.

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u/Urzuck Italy 1d ago

The main problem here is that you are conflating all palestinians in a single group of people that wish to exterminate us, including all the women, the little kids and everyone else. 2 million people with a singular hivemind that wants to exterminate the jews and the germans. History didn’t teach anything to Germany, they just stripped you of your pride and brainwashed you, it’s really pathetic to see.

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u/Born_Worldliness2558 1d ago

You're just like your grand parents. Can't believe I used to have respect for Germany and the way (I thought) it had taken responsibility for its genocidal past. More fool me. It was all lies. Once a genocidal nazi state, always a genocidal nazi state.

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u/Born_Worldliness2558 1d ago

Israel is actually commiting genocide though.

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u/PRKP99 Poland 1d ago edited 22h ago

Christians in Palestine are also Palestinians, and zionist state discriminate them the same as muslims.

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u/PRKP99 Poland 1d ago

Hasbara bot. In the west bank people are discriminated, removed from their houses and villages, killed.  Even before october the number of killed palestinian civilians was highest since second upprising (al aksa upprising). 

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u/MeggaMortY 1d ago

Very funny comment troll. Maybe it's time to grow a brain cell? No? Not yet?

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u/Celmeno 1d ago

Always has been acceptable in Germany.

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u/lasttimechdckngths Europe 1d ago

Who even told you that in the first place, lmao.

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u/umonoz 1d ago

You’re wrong. In Turkey this fucking nazi at least would be sacked. Our cops prefer batons to legs and small gas capsules.  Not bc the sake of justice ofc. They would be afraid of public backlash.

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u/Mesmerhypnotise 1d ago

Calling a cop in germany a Nazi as she did may get you prison time. In which country does shoving  and threatining police officers end well for you? She'd be dead in the US.

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u/thecartman85 1d ago

Look at what the german police was doing to german citizens during the covid lockdowns. There's a video of them literally beating an old very german lady. Absolutely disgusting.

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u/TESThrowSmile 1d ago

I can't believe how many people justify police violence in this post. If we changed countries, would they still defend them?

Honestly, as a non-white American, the thing I've noticed from the European-centric subs is the subtle, subconscious, white-supremecy talking points pushed out and openly supported on these subs.

I support Western Values, but im starting to realize at the top of Western Values is white supremacy. Yikes !

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u/Ordinary-Violinist-9 1d ago

Because she was picking a fight with the cops. They asked her to move but she kept turning around and shouting at them.

For all we know they went of the parcour or there was a counter protest nearby which the police was trying to shield them from.

So yes. It's her own damn fault.

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u/emeraldamomo 1d ago

Police violence is OK if the protesters are rioting but not if they are peaceful.

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u/IdiAmini 1d ago

He punches multiple times. He is wearing police gloves that are heavy and do extra damage. And it was completely unnecessary as you can see by how easily they carry her away afterwards

You are excusing police brutality

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u/IdiAmini 1d ago

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zn9PcL0vlzk

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ambassador-contacts-german-officials-after-irish-activist-punched-in-the-face-by-police-during-gaza-protest-in-berlin/a249856773.html

"Footage emerged of the Irish activist being repeatedly punched in the face by police at a protest in Berlin"

Get lost fascist

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u/IdiAmini 1d ago

So yeah, you were wrong, he committed police brutality and you are a fascist

Glad that we are in agreement!

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u/kriegerflieger 1d ago

Seems like everyone’s a fascist when you’re in the finding out phase

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u/IdiAmini 1d ago

Quite the fascist rhetoric. Please continue so everyone sees who you are

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u/IdiAmini 1d ago

So, you deserve punches for being rude? That is German law? Guess Germany has fascist police

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u/Urzuck Italy 1d ago

So you get punched just for being disrepectful? Not arrested? What is the police in Germany? Street thugs? Then they get mad if they call them nazi lmao.

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u/Urzuck Italy 1d ago

What the fuck is even palywood. And nobody asked for the history of your life, i really don’t care. If something goes against the law you arrest that person, you don’t punch her in the face multiple times (or was he too weak to do that?), unless you want a state police like Russia.

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u/Alternative_Turn_470 1d ago

Or maybe they’re just nazis. Kisses from Ireland

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u/DrPinguin98 1d ago

Look at the video. She resists the police, tries to push the policeman, then gets a poke (I personally wouldn't call it a punch) in the face, continues to rant and then gets a punch in the face.

I think the police reacted very well here.

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u/dakjelle 1d ago

Do you have the details on this? Did he do as he was told? Was he warned?

Or did the police just walk up to a random dude and hit him in the face.

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u/d_repz 1d ago

She.

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u/GrumpyGit1 1d ago

If you watch the video, it's a woman who gets punched a few times in the face

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u/dakjelle 1d ago

“despite repeated orders” to leave the area, O’Brien “refused to comply and insulted verbally and offended physically, several police officers”.

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u/estrellaente 1d ago

I don't know what you mean by that, but you can't go around hitting people. The police are taught to depress people, physically or verbally, and for insults you can't stoop so low as to resort to physical violence. We're coming from violence and abuse of civilians in the Balkans. This isn't a good time to fall into hypocrisy.