r/europe • u/MarktpLatz Lower Saxony (Germany) • Apr 03 '17

What do you know about... Ukraine?

This is the eleventh part of our ongoing series about the countries of Europe. You can find an overview here.

Todays country:

Ukraine

Ukraine is the largest country that is completely on the european continent. The Ungarian people's republic was founded in 1917, the ukrainian state in 1918. It later became part of the soviet union and finally got independent in 1991. Currently, Ukraine is facing military combat with russia-backed rebels and the crimean peninsula was completely annexed by Russia. Ukraine will host the next eurovision song contest.

So, what do you know about Ukraine?

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '17

Common wisdom in Ukraine is that Bandera was not the brightest among 5-6 most prominent figures in mid-XX Ukraine independence movement (Konovalets, Shukhevich etc). Nor he was the one responsible for ethnic cleansings and massacres during WW2, nor he was ideological follower of Nazi. KGB made a symbol of Ukrainian nationalist from Bandera so his contemporary glorification is mainly leveraging hostile propaganda.

I believe that in a few years Bandera hype would be steered towards heroes of contemporary RF-Ukraine war.

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u/iwanttosaysmth Poland Apr 04 '17

Bandera was responsible for ethnic cleansing, he was a head of UON-B, organisation that was solely responsible for genocide. Also the other "prominent figure" you mentioned Shukhevich was equaly bad if not worse than Bandera

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u/cookedpotato Ukraine/Murica Apr 04 '17

He wasn't leading shit at that time as he was in a concentration camp. It was some other dumbfuck. As a matter of fact Bendera had written a menifesto for after the war where he had wanted to assimilate not purge the Poles.

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u/iwanttosaysmth Poland Apr 04 '17

Hitler wasn't in Auschwitz