r/europeanunion • u/sn0r • Jul 27 '25
Paywall The EU doesn’t need a deal with Trump
https://www.ft.com/content/d508364d-f0af-4d3f-8261-cc0a1b93cf8912
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u/Typingdude3 Jul 27 '25
The US and Europe should be a united front against China and Russia (two dictatorships that can be rather brutal, especially to their own people.) Problem is the Russian cancer has infected the US, and it is absolutely eating Ukraine alive. And there's no changing the regimes in China and Russia, ever.
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u/Wide-Annual-4858 Jul 27 '25
The ship with the transatlantic united front has sailed with Trump turning against Europe.
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u/Typingdude3 Jul 27 '25
America has not turned against Europe. We're better together.
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u/Wide-Annual-4858 Jul 27 '25
The president of the US told many times that the EU was formed to screw the US.
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u/Arguz_ Netherlands Jul 27 '25
The US and Europe’s disease is not Russian, it is intrinsically ours.
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u/Typingdude3 Jul 27 '25
It's been driven by Russian propaganda though and is happening still.
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u/ISV_VentureStar Jul 28 '25
It's been driven by billionaires buying up politicians and dismantling the social safety net and worker protections, causing rising inequality and shittier lives for most people in persuit of profits.
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u/7896k5ew Jul 27 '25
The EU just needs to close down most of its internet like is planned and ban more political speech and import more immigrants and then everything will be fixed. Who cares about negative growth rates as long as you can act politcaly snooty?
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u/trisul-108 EU Jul 27 '25
All these arguments in the article as to why the EU should not make a deal with Trump are equally valid arguments for why they should make a deal. The deal is just a farce, so it makes sense to pretend to agree to it. The must develop its IT industry, which can equally be done with deal or without. EU consumers are starting to boycott US goods, and this can continue with a deal or without.
In other words, I think the EU is doing great, stringing Trump along for the ride, giving him some shiny trinkets he can gloat about ... while at the same time building independence from the EU.
For example, the EU did not buckle and Meta has announced they will no longer allow political campaigns in the EU. They think this is a threat, but for the EU, this is great. We do not want our politics to go through Facebook. Microsoft has admitted they were bluffing with the "sovereign datacenter", so we need to stop using Microsoft software, there does not need to be a tax, just phase them out. EU consumers should continue to boycott Tesla. All great.