r/europeanunion 4d ago

Ukraine gets backing of Lithuania to bypass Hungarys EU block

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u/Mafla_2004 3d ago

Pardon the ignorance but doesn't this go against the principles of the EU? Like, we made a system that is supposed to be democratic and that requires unanimosity and then we bypass it when the result isn't of our liking? This goes beyond the scope of the specific case of Ukraine, I side for Ukraine, but if we made a system that requires unanimosity in the name of democracy we must follow it, if it proved it doesn't work then it should have been made a majority based system from the get go, or at least changed a while back, not just bypassed because one voice didn't speak like the rest, it defeats the entire purpose of the system

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u/Miao_Yin8964 3d ago

Survival.

Russia is about to head the Security Council come October.

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u/Mafla_2004 3d ago

Ok but by doing this we'll basically give Russia ammunition to do propaganda against us, I can already see them going "We love democracy only when it benefits us"

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u/GreenEyeOfADemon Italian - EUROPE ENDS IN LUHANSK Slava Ukraini! 3d ago

And? Whatever we do, rashia will always find a way to smear us. Stop worrying about what they say and worry about what they do.

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u/Mafla_2004 3d ago

I do worry about what they do, what I'm talking about is that this undermines our credibility and our values. If we show cracks, it will be easier to hit us.

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u/GreenEyeOfADemon Italian - EUROPE ENDS IN LUHANSK Slava Ukraini! 3d ago

We need to stop being pussies, really.

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u/Mafla_2004 3d ago

With that I agree, we need to stop being US lapdogs and have a voice of our own, so there is no US, no Russia, no China, no whatever in our affairs

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u/GreenEyeOfADemon Italian - EUROPE ENDS IN LUHANSK Slava Ukraini! 3d ago

No, no: we need to stop being afraid of the russia.