EU wants to reintroduce a surveillance law that was previously annulled by EU court for being classified as illegal mass surveillance - and they are asking for feedback (in 2014 CJEU ruled mass data retention illegal but now it’s back)

[u/Aagragaah]

https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/14680-Impact-assessment-on-retention-of-data-by-service-providers-for-criminal-proceedings-/public-consultation_en

[u/Aagragaah]

If you need info on why this is bad, check out https://fightchatcontrol.eu/

[u/snowsuit101 → u/Aagragaah]

This isn't chat control, this is part of the ProtectEU strategy.

[u/Aagragaah → u/snowsuit101]

And you know this how? They don't say which specific policy/policies this is linked to, just that it's a consultation on data retention.

[u/snowsuit101 → u/Aagragaah]

I know this because chat control doesn't require this kind of metadata retention as it works on the client-side, there the services would scan everything before it gets encrypted and report everything suspicious, it's not concerned with metadata per se, it's concerned with the unencrypted data. But the ProtectEU strategy as a whole does require metadata retention of already encrypted data (and also with breaking or working around encryption, but that's a different part) because that also applies to the service providers' own infrastructure and what they store.

[u/Aagragaah → u/snowsuit101]

Please, link to the details of the current chat control proposed implementation then. Last I looked they hadn't published a detail spec on how they wanted to do it, only the intention. 

[u/snowsuit101 → u/Aagragaah]

Here it even mentions the impact assessment this consultation is tied to

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex:52025DC0148

COMMUNICATION FROM THE COMMISSION TO THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT, THE COUNCIL, THE EUROPEAN ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL COMMITTEE AND THE COMMITTEE OF THE REGIONS on ProtectEU: a European Internal Security Strategy

The Commission will:

·present a Roadmap setting out the way forward on lawful and effective access to data for law enforcement in 2025

·prepare an impact assessment in 2025 with a view to updating rules on data retention at EU level, as appropriate

[u/Aagragaah → u/snowsuit101]

Both of those could apply to chat control though, I'm not seeing why you believe they can't?

[u/snowsuit101 → u/Aagragaah]

So, you're saying the EU Commission's (not the Danish government's like the current version of Chat Control) own communication to create this exact impact assessment for the ProtectEU strategy isn't any proof that this assessment is for the ProtectEU strategy? Got it.

[u/Aagragaah → u/snowsuit101]

No, I mean where do you see on https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/14680-Impact-assessment-on-retention-of-data-by-service-providers-for-criminal-proceedings-/public-consultation_en that it is linked to https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex:52025DC0148?

The only link I can find is in the latter it says "prepare an impact assessment in 2025 with a view to updating rules on data retention at EU level, as appropriate", but I don't see anything on the assessment itself which states what it's tied to.

[u/snowsuit101 → u/Aagragaah]

Aside from it being very obvious from the topics covered, the impact assessment call just one page above the consultation itself calls back to it in the linked document

The topic was of focal importance in the High-Level Group on Access to Data, where experts recommended the adoption of an EU framework on the retention of data for law enforcement purposes, covering also access safeguards. Commission President von der Leyen (1) (2) and EU Member States in Council Conclusions on Access to Data for Effective Law Enforcement and on Strengthening Joint Counterterrorism Efforts recently underscored the need for measures to ensure lawful and effective access to data for law enforcement purposes. In the Communication ProtectEU: a European Internal Security Strategy, the Commission committed to present in 2025 a Roadmap setting out the way forward on lawful and effective access to data for law enforcement and to prioritise an assessment of the impact of data retention rules at EU level.

Edit: Right in the headline, under the title of the page: Have your say - Public Consultations and Feedback > Published initiatives > Data retention by service providers for criminal proceedings – impact assessment > Public consultation

The third link is the initiative

[u/Puzzleheaded_Lab4132]

glad more people are waking up to this!! stop mass surveillance

[u/the-blue-horizon]

WTF is this?!

[u/aknb]

Zensursula at it again.