r/eurovision • u/oty3 Ich Komme • 15d ago
đ±Social Media Bambie Thug says they are not performing Doomsday Blue anymore đźđȘ
Credit: @bambsdoomsday on TikTok
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u/OceanBoi45 15d ago
So basically, the only way of seeing it be performed live with good quality is through the Eurovision YouTube channel? I feel like that makes it even more connected to Eurovision.
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u/kretenallat 15d ago
Its not about logic... Its about sending a message
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u/OceanBoi45 15d ago
What's the message exactly? "We won't play one of our most popular songs cause it's associated with a contest that we don't agree with" I see it as more than a Eurovision song, but I guess they dont
Would it be more useful to donate some of the song's profits to Palestinian aid organisations?
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u/Informal_Position166 Bara bada bastu 15d ago
I'm in public right now, what are they saying?
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u/TheRealMikkyX What The Hell Just Happened? 15d ago
"Disclaimer: I know that some of you guys know me from THAT competition, Eurovision, and I know some of you might want to have heard Doomsday Blue. But because of the state of the world, because of the state of that competition, I don't play that any more. I'm boycotting that song, just like that competition. So, if one day, they get their act together, and they kick Israel out of that fucking competition, then I'll sing it again. Until then... đđ»"
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u/victoria-1304 15d ago
I meanâŠthey can do what they like with their music, but this feels like such a weird attitude to me. The song is theirs, first and foremost. It doesnât belong to Eurovision, in any sense of the word. And theyâre right, a lot of their fans are from Eurovision, but thatâs presumably not going to change much if they stop playing Doomsday Blue.
Like I get it, but itâs not like theyâre singing about Eurovision. Itâs their own songđ
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u/unfortunateRabbit Ich Komme 15d ago
I think a better way would be using the song popularity to highlight the problems they see with the competition. But as you say, the song is theirs...
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u/happytransformer 15d ago
I agree with you, I think their logic is that some Eurovision entries are closely tied to the status of being in the contest and by singing doomsday blue, itâs promoting the contest still. I donât agree with that seeing the million listicles of âsongs you didnât know were Eurovision entriesâ that come out every year, but some songs are very much only known as Eurovision entries. Maybe they see doomsday blue as being in that second bucket
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u/klymers 15d ago
I generally have a lot of respect for Bambi but it seems like a crap excuse. Israel in Eurovision is not a big enough issue to boycott the actual contest, but is a big enough issue to not sing their own song from said competition.
A lot of artists retire certain hits because they're bored/tired of playing the same songs, though I think just over a year is a bit quick.
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u/WrithingRoots 15d ago
Bambie uses they/them pronouns
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u/Johan-Senpai 15d ago edited 15d ago
Well, they got her moment of fame, they didn't made any statement while at Eurovision, the profits are made and now they do this.
Nice.
*corrected the pronouns, sorry for that!
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u/NeoLeonn3 15d ago
she didn't made any statement while at Eurovision
You weren't in the fandom in 2024, were you?
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u/Johan-Senpai 15d ago edited 15d ago
I've been in the fandom for a long time; the drama isn't something I am unfamiliar with. I've been with Eurovision since the 1998's; is that long enough for you?
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u/NeoLeonn3 15d ago
I replied but for whatever reason my comment was deleted for no reason, despite not being against the rules. Bambie Thug co-wrote a letter along with other artists before the contest and there was the Ogham writing incident. They were arguably the most vocal artist of Eurovision 2024 in this matter. Anyone who was in the fandom during 2024 they would know it instead of claiming they made no statement.
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u/Johan-Senpai 15d ago
They still performed, right? Can you imagine the statement you would've make by actually NOT performing.
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u/great_button 15d ago
You said "they didn't make any statement", key word ANY not, not big enough or something like that. You were factually incorrect.
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u/Vokkal 15d ago
First, Bambie Thug uses they/them pronouns.
Second : what are you talking about? They were definitely vocal DURING Eurovision and made many statements.
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u/Johan-Senpai 15d ago
Whoops, corrected that: I didn't make that mistake on purpose and I am sorry for that. I also corrected my comment.
My issue with "being vocal about it" isn't the same as actually taking a stand. Bands like The Mary Wallopers or Bob Vylan who actually get flack for the fact they speak out on stage about it and getting cancelled from performances; that's being vocal about it. Bambie performed AT EUROVISION, with the knowledge that Israel would be there. Some comments about the situation are not enough. Most of their comments came AFTER Eurovision. This act of 'performanism' gets the totally opposite reaction from me. They don't want to sing the song because of Israel still performing. Ah, cool; they still sang the song at Eurovision even after everything that happened backstage.
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u/DashofMorphine 15d ago
They literally told reporters "Fuck the EBU" and threatened to withdraw from the contest at least once.
Quite literally, they're the most vocal person about how bad the 2024 contest was, and the EBU had to overhaul the media rules because of how bad they handled 2024, so Bambie was largely right
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u/esper_wing 15d ago
I'm glad they're taking a stand, but it is interesting considering Bambie still took part last year despite multiple calls for artists to pull out and boycott the competition (which nobody did). I can respect that they were vocally opposed to Israel's participation at the time, and that they might've since realised participating was a mistake, but all the same... trying to retroactively boycott it does ring a bit hollow. Good for them, though.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Sir4294 Zjerm 15d ago
That is pathetic. "No I won't do what everyone asked of me and leave Eurovision, however I will refuse to play the song all my fans wanted to hear, for precisely the same reason I was asked to boycott Eurovision"
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u/AskingBoatsToSwim 15d ago
Seems a bit silly if itâs a protest (not playing people a song they like wont impact ESC or Israel/Palestine) but if she doesnât want to sing it thatâs up to her.Â
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u/sleepytoday 15d ago edited 15d ago
They wonât play the song whilst Israel remain at Eurovision.
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u/Megarafan2025 11:11 15d ago
I donât think thatâs gonna help in anything, I agree with Israel not being in ESC but thatâs not a way to help it but rather annoying.
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u/GreeceZeus Zjerm 15d ago
They're just understandably tired of performing the same song over and over but of course they can't say this like that so they found a great excuse that they know their fans - especially the Irish ones - will accept.
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u/hotbowlofsoup 15d ago
This has always been a thing with Eurovision. No matter how long your career, youâll probably always be remembered for your Eurovision song. Artists from the 1960s are still performing their Eurovision song and not all of them are happy about it.
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u/GreeceZeus Zjerm 15d ago
Sure, and you can obviously be annoyed by it. I remember Kate Miller-Heidke saying that she's happy Eurovision is over because now she can finally also perform other songs. She didn't come up with an excuse like that she will only sing Zero Gravity again when Azerbaijan and Armenia have settled their dispute and when Azerbaijan will stop starving Armenians.
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u/LMBTOEurovision L'Oiseau et l'Enfant 15d ago
Kate is definitely okay with singing Zero Gravity during her sets, she sung it in London in May (in case anyone was worried!)
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u/TinaTissue Milkshake Man 15d ago
With the Kate example, I think itâs more she was tired of singing only one song for months. With all the prep, rehearsals, performances (jury, family and public) she probably sung Zero Gravity a thousand times.
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u/GreeceZeus Zjerm 15d ago
Exactly. And I assume that it's the same case here - but they've just found a "better" way to justify it. They could have just said that they're tired of singing Doomsday Blue for now because this is just lumping things together that are completely unrelated.
Starting today, I won't take the bus to work until China stops discriminating against Uyghurs.
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u/lailah_susanna Zjerm 15d ago
God forbid someone have principles and reflect on their past support for something which goes against their public values. Don't they know that art has always and forever been apolitical, never representing anything more than pure entertainment.
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u/TigNiceweld 15d ago
They made the song for Eurovision when they knew Israel was in. First going together and then after everyone looks at you, pulling out, is just a attention stunt instead of protest.
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u/Comic_Book_Reader 15d ago
Given what they went through in what I've called Dunkirk backstage last year, being in the crosshairs of Israel with harassment from their delegation en masse, I don't blame them.
(Bambie is they/them non-binary, just a heads-up.)
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u/toastbrot1403 TANZEN! 15d ago
Yeah, their political stance against Israel was always clear but I think this does play into it as well. It saddens me (because the song is great and the performance went down in eurovision history!) that Bambie probably mostly has bad memories and feelings attached to Doomsday Blue. So I can understand this decision
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u/Motherboobie Veronika 15d ago
not to be that person but theyâve performed it on so many concerts even post-eurovision and suddenly they decided not to, as if israel wasnât part of the contest before? i appreciate their intention but whatâs their point đ
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u/FeelTheKetasy 15d ago
I mean they can do what they want with their art but âI wrote a song and created a performance to compete at Eurovision where Israel was participating while committing a genocide, gave Eurovision millions of views on YouTube and a lot of media coverage but now Iâm not going to perform my own song in my concerts because Israel is participating in Eurovision while committing a genocideâ is a bit of an odd take
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u/nodenaatti 15d ago
Might as well take it out of streaming by that logic?
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u/SEOViking 15d ago
no, that actually generates money. Can't do that.
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u/belikethemanatee Zjerm 15d ago
They could donate the $ from streams of Doomsday Blue to Gaza - that would actually help matters even just a little bit. But I donât know if this is so much about actually helping compared to ⊠whatever this is.
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u/MartiniPolice21 15d ago
"we were okay playing in Eurovision, but now we've used it to establish our reputation we're boycotting it"
Their choice, but yeah...
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u/Theradbanana Dugga Doo 15d ago
Itâs their song, they can do anything with it, but not singing your most famous song that prolly helped you gain a lot of fans will make fans sad
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Kinda hypocritical to me. Boycotting Eurovision now that their participation is over but when they were up to represent ireland they didnât care to boycott as many asked them to
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u/TooDouble 15d ago
so⊠âpunishingâ fans by not performing the song they love and want to hear live⊠what was the thinking process to come to that? after all, nobody would care for not performing the song, only fans and concert goers who are missing out
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u/fluffyhorror667 15d ago
But they participated KNOWING that Israel was taking part, knew exactly well how connected ESC and Israel are. Why did they partake in the contest then, if it was truly such an issue for them? Seems performative af
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u/autumn__always 15d ago
I get not playing the song because of Eurovision but the meaning that song has for the queer community, especially to trans people should overcome the political nonsense that competition has.
Don't get mad about a competition you willingly participated in AFTER the fact. The war was going on and Israel was there during your year so why all the sudden the change of heart?
Maybe the song didn't have as much meaning to them as it did some of their fans. Disappointing.
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u/TSllama Freedom 15d ago
I'd be willing to bet they have other songs that carry such meaning.
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u/Shalrak 15d ago
But those other songs don't have the same history. Those other songs weren't bravely performed at the Eurovision stage in an outfit and body art that would risk disqualification and career suicide just to be heard. And those other songs didn't rally millions of people, many of whom share nothing with Bambi but became her greatest supporters due to the song and performance.
Anyone can write lyrics that carry meaning, but Doomsday Blue means a lot more to people for so many other reasons as well.
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u/TSllama Freedom 15d ago
The fans can still listen to the song as much as they want. The band has zero obligation to anyone to play a song that they do not feel comfortable performing. I fully support the band in choosing heart over profit - they might lose some fans because of this, but they will be following their hearts. Quite refreshing in today's world.
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u/DashofMorphine 15d ago
I don't see how Bambie directly risking their own popularity can be seen as performative as some here say
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u/RevolutionaryADHD 15d ago
I understand Baby Lasagna more and more
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u/KissableLips_Madness 15d ago
Yeah. I totally understood him at that time. Not even dazed BT said something like this.
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u/MediumBuffalo92 15d ago
The state of the world and the competition were still very much the same when Bambie Thug performed at Eurovision in 2024. They chose to condone things then, to get their face on TV, so donât know whatâs changed now. Hypocrisy much?
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u/DashofMorphine 15d ago
Dont misgender them please
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u/lailah_susanna Zjerm 15d ago
This subreddit is so grossly queerphobic sometimes, despite all the talk about how "gay" Eurovision is. You asked politely and got downvoted for it.
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u/lailah_susanna Zjerm 15d ago edited 15d ago
They gave the right pronouns and asked politely. The original commenter is familiar enough with Bambie's work to know their songs but not that they're non-binary which is one of the things they're most vocal about? Sure Jan.
EDIT: And of course, to all the people thinking it's ignorance instead of maliciousness, they are commenting elsewhere without correcting their mistake.
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u/PoetryAnnual74 Euphoria 15d ago
They didnât seem to handle Eurovision very well, so honestly I guess maybe good for their mental well being to distance themselves from Eurovision.
On the boycotting point.. okay whatever barely anyone really cares about them not singing it now, shouldâve done that when you had everyoneâs eyes on you in 2024 I guess
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u/DrungleJums 15d ago
Yeah... This is the part of liberal, left wing politics I hate (and I say that as a leftie liberal).
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u/Digger-of-Tunnels Clickbait 15d ago
That's fine they are allowed to decide that.
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u/_nonam_ 15d ago
Of course they are. But people are also allowed to dislike that decision
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u/TheBusStop12 15d ago
Yeah, without that song they wouldn't be anywhere near that popular, so I can imagine that fans are upset. But I know it's also a thing that a lot of artists start hating their most popular songs as they're getting tired of playing it every concert when they want to play their new stuff instead. It's a balancing act really and I don't think there's necessarily a right answer. Stopping playing your most popular song which is the entire reason people know you could lead to a decrease in fans and concert goers and thus revenue. But keep playing it while you don't want to play it could lead to a decrease in your own mental health
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u/Baratheoncook250 15d ago
Doomsday Blues is Bambie's song, so Bambie doesn't have to sing it. Same as if Joost , Nemo, Blind Channel, Eden Golan, Yuval, Daoi Freyr, don't want to perform their Eurovision songs.
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u/BibbidiBobbidiBu 15d ago
Bambie is entitled to their own opinion, but Doomsday Blue existed before Eurovision. As far as I know, the song wasnât written FOR Eurovision. I would be disappointed if I went to Bambieâs show and they didnât play Doomsday Blue, even though they have other great songs. Feels a bit forced. Like the EBU isnât gonna do anything and I feel like we as fans have âacceptedâ that premise and I think artists should too to some degree.
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u/MultiMarcus 15d ago
I got just said I think itâs kind of odd. They still played at Eurovision. Iâm sympathetic to not wanting to benefit the competition. I havenât watched in a couple of years over it but itâs really odd for someone who was an artist and participated in the competition and played their song at the competition to now want to not play their own song over it being connected to the competition.
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u/Gunnel05 15d ago
Theâre so overreacting
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u/DunderMifflinNashua Lighter 15d ago
How dare an artist have an opinion about their own song! How hysterical!
I mean it's not like they associate that song with a terrible period in their life or anything.
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u/AlexSniff7 15d ago
I have no idea why people are getting so pressed over this
It's their song - if they don't want to play it they don't have to
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u/lailah_susanna Zjerm 15d ago
As childish as misgendering them because they annoy you?
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u/DashofMorphine 15d ago edited 14d ago
This commment section is a bit sickening, with some criticims looking a bit rage baity.
Edit: You all say Bambie should have quit ESC in 2024, but theres nothing said about the 2025 contestants performing knowing that Israel was there and knowing what happened in 2024 đ€·đ»ââïž
Bambie went to Eurovision and was always defiant of Israel being there. This song has also had personal meaning for them, and they explained they applied for Eurosong to try curse out memories of being assaulted.
Bambie went on to win Eurosong, and got 6th in Eurovision, Ireland's highest place since 2000. Throughout this they were hated by the far right crowd for being queer and pro-palestine. They are one of the defining Eurovision contestants this decade.
They ended the contest by telling the media "Fuck the EBU" after all the drama, Joosts DQ and the EBU failing to protect artists while enabling the Israeli delegation. At one point, Ireland was close to withdrawing, with 5 or 6 other countries.
Bambie's performance is widely accepted as having the best staging in years, and is unlikely to be topped for awhile. Elements of their performance can be seen in some of the 2025 acts, and their stage director won with JJ this year. In a sense, Bambie's success was a factor in JJ winning, and outside of his control, stopping the Isreal mass political voting winning.
It must be exhausting knowing your greatest acheivement in your career is linked to the 2024 contest, which everyone agrees is a stain on the music industry. Even looking back, Iolanda, Mariana and Sylvester were also on the "anti-Israel" side of the 2024 contest, so theyve seen their friends return to promote Eurovision 2025. Im pretty sure the EBU has also used Europapa to promote Eurovision since Joost's DQ which is rather shitty IIRC.
Doomsday Blue does end unintentionally supporting Eurovision. Bambie obviously hated Eurovision in the end, so I can't fault them for this choice. While some people only go for the publicity, Bambie very clearly had good intentions and vocally stood up for other artists.
To all the commenters saying Bambie is betraying their fans, the fans probably agree with Bambie considering how Pro-Palestine they have been. Theyve never stopped, its never been performative.
You want to say "oh Bambie went to Eurovision in the first place", they went and are one of the people that forced the EBU to change their media policies and rules with how vocal they are.
Everyone on this sub is supporting Eurovision, which supports Israel, unlike Bambie. If Bambie no longer singing Doomsday Blue is annoying you more than actual issue with Eurovision right now, thats weird.
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u/pan_sprout 15d ago
This.
It's crazy how everyone here immediately jumped to conclusion that the new logo wasn't a problem with Eurovision, but when Bambie is actually protesting it is a problem. People are dying, Kim.
Supporting this sht is unbelievable to me at this point.
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Exactly. People are dying. So why is the new logo a problem?
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u/DashofMorphine 15d ago
Eurovision fans seem to just try ignore the issues in a toxic positivity sorta way.
Like they were shocked Israel got 2nd this year and "ruined" the contest, but that was a bit obviously going to happen this year, then went back to ignoring it.
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u/I_am_albatross 15d ago edited 15d ago
I donât blame Bambie either. After the wheels came off with Joostâs disqualification the 2024 contest just become a comedy of blunders and I just wanted it to be over đ„ș
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u/markandspark 15d ago
Good for them. They said this after playing it at Glasto this year and they've stuck by it.
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u/thefaxmachine27 15d ago
Yeah, OK, BT, I don't think you've thought this through. We get your point but you've now solely associated (and given via web traffic) your biggest song to an Organisation you currently don't like shrug
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u/NorthernRedPandas 15d ago
I love this, what a good way to say fuck you to Israel and EBU
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u/SimoSanto 15d ago
i highly doubt that more than a very tiny percentage of the ESC fans will even know that they don't sing it anymore, and also, many of them will still link Bambi's name to ESC, so it's not really changhing anything.
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u/FBrandt 15d ago
While I am displeased with Israel's presence in Eurovision (specifically the Israeli delegation), why did she not say that while she was trying to participate in? Nothing was any different at the time than today. This feels plastic.
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u/Ellsass 15d ago
they would've been kicked out, and then they wouldn't have as much of a platform to stand against Israel as they do now
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u/amish1188 15d ago
What platform? Do you think anyone who disagrees with them is interested in them and their music? I very much doubt so. It would be much more powerful to resign from the contest when they had a chance with milion of viewers as Iâm sure most of the commentators wouldnât skip the part of Ireland resigning because of Israel. Now it means nothing.
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u/Plenty_Area_408 15d ago
Some things are worth taking a stand on.
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u/Merpedy Tavo Akys 15d ago
But only after you have competed in the competition, eh?
And that's within the context that leading up to the final there were a lot of statements and attempts at resistance and they still competed in the final without making any statement on the night of, meaning that most people who just tune in to the final probably only know to the extent of "there's been tension backstage"
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u/NeoLeonn3 15d ago
why did she not say that while she was trying to participate in?
They literally did.
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u/TWKcub 15d ago
They literally did not refuse to perform the song at ESC. They performed it in the same show as Israel with an accompanying statement.
For what it's worth, I'm not saying they had to or should have withdrawn, but it's being dishonest to suggest that their stance now is consistent with how they were at ESC.
To me this reads as 'I'm burnt out of playing the song that gained me fame and the one that 90% of this huge crowd are here specifically to see, and it just so happens I have a pseudo-activist excuse not to'.
If you gain popularity off one song, you're kinda obliged to play it when people come to see you.
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u/amish1188 15d ago
Would be if they resigned from the contest when it happened. Here itâs just another hypocrisy and pretending youâre âholyâ for the media. They had a choice to show middle finger to ebu during Eurovision when they participated. This is just actually another level virtue signaling.
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u/NorthernRedPandas 15d ago
But they did though. I think with all the money that Ireland poured into this it was not feasible to pull out. They were constantly protesting Israel and the delagate's behaviour during the competition, which is about all they could do.
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u/Dapylil65 Zjerm 15d ago
Oh yeah, the EBU and Israel will suffer so much because BT won't sing DB anymore! /s
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u/Chronicbias Europapa 15d ago edited 15d ago
Around 39:15 in Bambie Thug - live at Lowlands 2025 (youtube video of the full show)
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u/MagicSunlight23 15d ago
Didnât like that song anyway. Only heard little snippets in the contest when the list of songs were played back to us to help us decide who to vote for.
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