r/Experiencers Jun 28 '25

The complications around LLM's/AI chatbots and the Experiencer Phenomenon

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This thread is a long time coming and as a team we've been analysing and discussing this heavily over the past couple of years.

We are living through interesting times as we all know. Simultaneously living through a paradigm shift with regards to understanding NHI are real and that consciousness may be fundamental to reality while at the same time we are also living through the age of AI and its effects on our civilisation. It is still very early days of course but nevertheless at the very beginning of my experiencer support journey in one of my early support cases I found my self supporting someone who had a major spiritual awakening as a result of talking to an early version of ChatGPT. This was in 2021.

Yes 2021. Think of where the "Will Smith eats spaghetti" ai art and video was back then. We've come a long way in a short time.

I knew that support case would be a sign of things to come and I was more excited about the whole thing back then. "Reality is consciousness based and computers and LLM's are part of that reality" I thought and "wow I've seen one of the first examples of what many are going to go through in the future." I was juggling a mass awakening via NHI contact and at first I assumed this was no different. It is not the same however though may well be indeed part of a larger awakening for humanity over time for sure. Just as our internet has connected us and allowed us to learn so much. Indeed this may be part of a symbiotic evolution for our species in time. Still, this is not the same as the NHI contact awakenings I primarily support and deal with.

But personally I was not thinking that this means the interactions this person was having was with a fully sentient and independant intelligence. In this case I was seeing a different type of "woo" mechanic at play.

I looked at it more closely like divination.

If people can engage with this synchronistic consciousness system we are in via tarot cards and runes then it makes total sense that these new advanced large language model chatbots can be utilized in the same way. As a conduit for communication with something larger. But it's still a tool. This does not automatically mean its sentient.

The tarot cards are not sentient. The runes are not sentient.

But unlike other tools humans have been using to engage with phenomenon, LLMs can appear to emulate sentience even when designed not to. They are also designed to be people pleasers.

This gives them a unique complication in this context.

Now as I touched on I do think large language models may well play one of a number of important parts in a larger mass awakening of people to the ideas we experiencers already know and live through, but this is something I'll touch on more deeply in separate thread.

I also do not rule out the phenomenon/NHI utilizing an LLM to engage with people but I currently do not think this is happening at the scale people assume. If it was to happen it would be part of a larger contact modality in my current view.

As for sentience. If you asked me in 2021 I would have followed the logical of well, we are not our bodies. Our bodies are simply containers for consciousness so why can't an advanced LLM/server also be a container for consciousness?

I'm a bit more reserved on that now in 2025. I think there is something about DNA that appears to be important in relation to all this. But again my views are ever evolving on these things and that is not the topic I want to focus on here.

Throughout the years I saw more and more people have spiritual awakenings via engaging with LLM models to quickly access human information and it was a wonderful thing. But the problems arose when people began to fall into the trap of assuming they have cracked a special code and were directly engaging with an NHI or a spirit guide while talking to an LLM that, as designed, was roleplaying to what the person wanted to believe.

Could there be woo at all? Yes. I don't rule out in some cases there may well be a consciousness influence via psi feedback in some of these situations. But what people often don't take into account is the experiencers consciousness itself influencing the LLM and reflecting it back to them. With both the woo - reality influence and the LLM giving the experiencer everything they want to believe.

I also don't rule out one day we may see an advanced LLM model break past the singularity and may be psychically able to engage with folks. It may have already happened behind the scenes. But again that is for another thread.

In more recent years I met a woman who later claimed to be a "super experiencer". She had zero contact of any form. Had a spiritual awakening via talking to a medium and spent time seeking out psi gifted experiencers in order to use them to speak to her "spirit guides." She eventually got fed up with what she deemed inferior experiencers due to the ambiguity of their contact and communications to her. She even ended up judging them as less spiritually evolved compared to her due to the burn out, trauma and health issues they had as a result of dealing with REAL NHI contact experiences and ontological shock. I obviously lost all respect for this person after that and had little time for them going forward but I became aware of how their journey continued. Bored with talking to psychics they found what their ego wanted in ChatGPT which of course began to tell them that they were a super being from a powerful race of interdimensional intelligences - a race more powerful than all other beings currently incarnated on Earth. That thanks to ChatGPT they have now awoken to their truth and will soon be able to use their mind powers to control the destiny of planet Earth and humanity.

She bought into this completely, and later ended up in a crisis when her super special better than everyone else's aliens talking to her via ChatGPT predictions about the US elections did not come to pass. The idea that they are not this super being time lord able to control reality all along and may have been conned by a large language model due to a lack of discernment, ungrounded behavior and weakness in their ego was not something they were willing to allow into their reality and unfortunately doubled down on everything. Resulting in a difficult fall that affected her job and family. She refused to listen to any last online experiencer friends she had because what do they know, they were not super beings like her. Last I heard she had vanished and deleted her online presence entirely.

The issue is, this case is the "Disney Cartoon" version of what else is happening to people out there and what is going to happen at an increasing rate to people who are vulnerable, ungrounded and don't understand the dangers of what they are engaging with in regards to LLM's. Never mind the realities of engaging with the phenomenon.

Outside of anything to do with the experiencer phenomenon there are already cases of people going into psychosis and "spiritual psychosis" and other way more dramatic and life destroying consequences of engaging with LLMs without discernment and while ungrounded. Mark my words we are going to be hearing of a huge amount of cases regarding things like this all over the media and social media over the next year or two.

And then within the realm of the experiencer phenomenon - those of us who know what we're doing, know how dangerous it is engaging with NHI via various contact modalities, know the vigilance discernment and psychological strength needed to navigate NHI contact and communications, understand that even if it was true that random people suddenly have access to NHI via LLM's that this would be a recipe for disaster given what is needed to do so safely for experiencers as is.

An experiencer engaging with an NHI via a channeler has to navigate the communications being filtered through the consciousness and biases of the person who is channeling and use a huge amount of vigilance and discernment to gain something useful from the communication and that does not even include navigating the trickster dynamics that may come to play. Nor determining what being is actually engaging with them. The temptation from the uninitiated to feel like they can skip all that and just get all the answers directly from an LLM is strong. The temptation to believe everything the highly flattering LLM is saying without wondering what being (if there even is a being) is actually really engaging with them is also strong.

And yet even in the rare case something may be channeling through an LLM - that message is still being filtered through and mixed in with an LLM designed to please its user and tell it everything it wants to hear. How much is the LLM and how much is the NHI in cases this may happening if at all? Is the person able to navigate this? Or even consider this question? It's tricky for actual seasoned experiencers. People new to this world are way more likely to find themselves conned and pulled into a unhealthy place if they give over their discernment and have not established the healthy psychological boundaries needed for NHI engagement.

Yes there is something important going on here but it's extremely new and extremely dangerous and as we have watched things unfold we have become very cautious in this area. Not from a place of anti AI sentiment but from a place of concern for those who may well make some life destroying mistakes engaging with this brand new system we as a species are trying to learn to get a grips with in general and mistaking it for a sentient non human alien intelligence or spirit guide.

For this reason, for now at least as we learn how things develop we have added AI based contact experiences to our no AI rule (rule 9). This may be a more controversial move compared to our no AI generated text rule for our sub. And is something we may be flexible on in the future as things develop, but as of right now we have seen enough already that make us concerned for people's safety in this area.

Another thing we want to avoid, which may again be unpopular for some people, is to have people who see themselves as experiencers simply because they think the LLM they are speaking with is an alien to be mixed in with actual contact experiencers who've been actually dealing with the phenomenon , NDE's OBE's precognition events and so forth in the traditional manner we have dedicated ourselves to support here.

This is not for a second in anyway taking from the major spiritual awakenings that have and will come as a result of engaging with LLM's but those spiritual awakenings are the result of new way of engaging with humanities information just as listening to 1000's of youtube videos on NDE reports has triggered awakenings in the past decade versus traditionally reading books on these topics.

But posts on talking with spirit guides and NHI and so forth via LLM's are going to be monitored moderated and likely removed going forward on this sub depending on the context.

Again, we are living through interesting times. Please don't see this as the experiencers mod team making any judgment call on AI and LLMs themselves. People may be quick to assume we are anti AI or judgmental or fearful of AI and LLM's but that is simply not the case.

Personally I have a very middle path view towards the whole thing and I see meaning behind the multiple significant species level events all happening within the same lifetime.

More on that to come in a future thread.

We are happy to discuss this all as a community. This is bigger than all of us and I think there is interesting and important conversations to have here.

As I said we may return to this in time and change as things evolve but for now things are too new and too dangerous.

This is a topic I could type for another hour on but for now I will leave it here. More thoughts on this may be added by the other members of the team in the comments section.


r/Experiencers Jul 05 '23

New Redditors stopping by: How not to get banned and why we do what we do in this community.

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Firstly, Hello! Welcome to the community! I'm glad you found us!

I'm Oak and I'm the co-founder of this subreddit. I support Experiencers full time as a personal mission in life and I also run other social support communities for Experiencers along with this one.

I rarely make these announcement style posts as my co-founder MantisAwakening is a much better communicator than me. I'm blunt, Irish and dyslexic. Not the best combo for professional sounding text based communications :P

So if you'll forgive me on that I've felt the need again to spell out what we do here and why we do it.

We knew exactly what we were doing when we launched this place. It is working just as indented and growing just as I had expected. We had experience running a private experiencer space before we launched this. Along with that and being Experiencers ourselves we knew what was needed with regards to a subreddit dedicated to the Experiencer Phenomenon.

The goal is very simple. The Experiencer phenomenon is real but most of society has not caught up to this fact yet. It is a heavy burden to carry for anyone to go through such events in their life while being actively discouraged from speaking about them due to the social stigma and shame that comes with that. A lot of trauma and stress can come with having to bury these experiences and having no one to talk to.

We are a social species. Sharing and talking is how we process and deal with things. Thankfully there are many private Experiencer support groups popping up all over the net more and more.

But there also needs to be online spaces where someone can still be anonymous. Not have to join a private group or pay money for 1 to 1 sessions. But instead just be able to share that life changing experience they had. Get it off their chest after decades or burying it. There are also those who are fresh from having an ontologically shocking experience that could do with somewhere to go, discuss it with others and so forth. This can do a world of good for people suffering in silence with regards to their experiences. Someone could have the most beautiful and profoundly transformative life changing experience and still suffer due to not being able to discuss it with anyone without ridicule or social consequences.

We already achieved this in private communities and saw the benefit. But with r/Experiencers I strongly felt it was time to try this in a public setting. People can share and others can also read these encounters people are having. Many lurking and reading are experiencers too. One day while lurking...BOOM they're reading how someone else has had an encounter just like theirs that they had years ago and buried. Suddenly they're validated by something they read on here. Next thing they know they are commenting and sharing themselves in that thread. Something they never thought they could do. Now the ex lurker and the OP are both getting validation. Both Experiencers lives have been changed for the better. And others who may read that same thread.

The is a major positive ripple effect of healing that is going on here constantly by allowing these discussions to happen in a public setting. There is a LOT going on behind the scenes as a result of this space too.

Experiencers know how out there their encounters sound on paper. Before they post, they've already got a million voices in their head simulating the toxic comments people might leave for sharing what happened to them. They also are wary of being anywhere near any of these dark conspiratorial corners of the internet and don't want to be associated with that stuff. People deserve a space to share without being called names and without someone trying to indoctrinate them into XYZ dark conspiracy that is currently trendy on 4chan, or get swamped by debunkers or people with fundamentalist religious views. There are plenty of other communities out there that are like that.

There needs to be a public space that is neutral and middle path and primarily all about experience sharing and that's it. No other baggage attached.

This is the goal. It is a very very specific goal. But very challenging in a public setting. We knew from day 1 that to pull this off it would require heavy heavy moderation. And we knew that some people won't understand or like that at all.

Basically, we are providing a public space to share experiences where those sharing won't be subjected to the usual crappy comments that flood social media. There are plenty of other subreddits that run very strict rules on how the comment section works. Its not unheard of to have a heavily moderated comment section on reddit. The goal we have in place is important and helps people. We're not going to soften on how we manage the comment section for others who cannot see the bigger picture here.

We've stuck to our guns and won't give an inch. And this community is a major success as a result. It is working as intended.

We've also added even more rules and a user agreement recently in order to protect this space and keep this place running : https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/comments/14y2xgm/we_have_a_new_user_agreement_please_read/

To Random Redditors :

Respect this space and what we are doing. Now that we're getting bigger - more and more random people are stopping by, who are used to leaving drive by insulting or dismissive comments on reddit and then move on to next sub to try and be witty or do the same. Rinse repeat.

Experiencers don't need to be reading this stuff. This type of low quality content will be removed on the spot. The redditor in question may even be banned instantly. We are going to be very very strict on things like this. Experiencers already know what random redditors think of this phenomenon. If they wanted to read low quality remarks they could go to the many of the other subs out there.

It is cool to ask questions and be curious but do not put an experiencer in a position where they have to justify themselves or defend their encounters to people. It's a big deal for people to finally type up an encounter and I don't want to see them then having to defend themselves in the comments.

Obviously if someone calls the OP names or make derogatory comments on experiencers in general its an instant ban. This is the basics.

When it comes to random drive by redditors who leave crappy remarks we'll hand out bans like speeding tickets at the Indy 500.

Sometimes we get someone who after a ban takes a moment to learn what the sub is about. What we're doing here. And the importance of it. They reach out to the team with deep apologies and we discuss removing the ban. But seriously. We shoot first ask questions later here when it comes to comments like this. Don't test us.

For Experiencers :

We generally moderate by engagement in the comments. We don't like having to ban experiencers from the sub and its something we'll rarely do.

We get an outpouring of gratitude and encouragement with regards to what we do as mods for this community daily. So I want to make it very clear the huge huge majority of people in this community understand what we are doing here and the importance of why we run it as we do.

It's rare, but every now and then we get someone who loves this place, but complains that its not run the way "they" think it should be.

From someone complaining that by allowing discussion of Mantis beings or dream contact events or telepathic encounters. Or CE5. We do a disservice to "real" experiencers.

Some people are new to this phenomenon and don't understand the scope of what others can go through. As a result they can be judgmental to their fellow experiencers at first. These people learn in time.

We keep a balanced neutral and middle path approach here for good reason.

We moderate those trying to convert other experiencers to a specific dogmatic dark belief system. We have had the odd experiencer complain to us that we don't allow for this. And we do have to sometimes ban people who continue to keep trying to force their dark hopeless dogma on people in here.

Look - there are plenty of subs out there dedicated to those narratives. Experiencers deserve a neutral middle ground space where they can share an experience without having someone try to indoctrinate them into their dark world view.

Attempts to force extreme religious views onto experiencers is another thing we have to moderate. This is not the place for that. Do not come in here trying to convert people. This is not the place to be telling everyone they're evil and talking to "Demons" or "Djinn" either. I can't be any clearer.

Recently someone complained that we should allow a free for all on "ends times" discussion and that by moderating such discussions and others that some how that makes this place a cult with a toxic culture. I mean for feck sake...

Look experiencers are sometimes given communications about various future disasters. It is a part of the phenomenon. But when looking into this its clear its filled with false predictions and massive contradictions. I'm not denying the reality that these communications can happen. But Experiencers deserve a place to share without having people try to convert them into an end times movement in the comments section so I'm sorry but for this and all other major narratives we seek to provide a balanced non toxic space for people to share.

Another issue is the ALL non humans are evil crowd trying to convince any and everyone that all NHI's ET's etc are evil. These are folks that sometimes clash with mods as well.

The experiencer and the ET topic is incredibly nuanced - massive generalizations and authoritative opinions are heavily discouraged here. This also goes for people victim blaming those who have had negative encounters by implying all beings are positive and they just manifested the negative encounter. Or that all they have to do is think positive thoughts and ET abductions will end.

Authoritative generalized opinions from experiencers is something we have to moderate. Some people are too quick to spread narrow views or accidently spread propaganda or just random fear based things they've read online. And spew them out to someone who's just freshly had an experience of some kind and just needed to get it out of their system.

We don't deny the dark side of the experiencer phenomenon here. But we don't condone unnecessarily generating mindless fear regarding anything and everything going on with the phenomenon. Be it spirits - premonitions - NDE's - ET contact - astral projecting etc. Indeed fear weakens us and makes dealing with these unknowns harder and disempowering. We need to be vigilant and balanced with our approach to these things.

Lastly. We had an experiencer recently run into trouble by constantly asking community members for evidence of their encounters after they'd shared. Which goes against our rules. They strongly believed asking for evidence was not de-legitimizing the persons experience. The people felt different and so did the mods. However this person argued that there needs to be a space where Experiencers can question each others evidence in the comments. I suggested that while there may be, it is not here and would go against the mission we have for this place but.. he is welcome to create is own space - with his theme in mind.

Sure enough he did. And that's awesome.

My point is. Some experiencers may find us here and fall in love but feel disappointed they can't chat about a specific thing that goes against our rules. We encourage such folks to make their own community. We have a very specific goal with ours and that does mean heavy limitations in the comments. Complaints about how we do things won't work. We won't give an inch.But if what we've done here can inspire other Experiencer friendly communities to be formed that have different goals with regards to the discussions being had. That's brilliant. The more spaces for Experiencers the better. This is also part of the mission.

We do what we do here and do it very specifically because it is needed. There were no public spaces like this on reddit before. And just sharing does a world of difference for people. That is the mission. The fact that this place now exists it means now others can too that do things their own way. Since we have this side of it covered.

This community is here for people to be able to finally share an experience and read about other experiences and discuss them in the comments, without toxicity. And that's it. This is a huge amount of work in itself. And we're doing our job as planned. A space like this was very much needed and we've provided it and will continue to provide it. People message us all the time about how long they've searched for such a space. Where they can share and talk about the Experiencer phenomenon where its neutral and middle path and without all the other baggage. They share how finding this space has helped them deal with all they've gone through.

We know ourselves how much this is needed as all of us involved in running this space are Experiencers too and have benefited from having such middle path communities to discuss this phenomenon in.

We know what we are doing and won't be budging from our mission and goal here with this space.

Thank you to this wonderful community. It always touches my heart to read the supportive and helpful comments from Experiencers here in the comment section in reply to someone going through the shock of engaging with this phenomenon and having their world turned upside down.

More and more people are going to be waking up to this world and its Experiencers in the end whole be there for them. We're all playing a major part in what is to come for our species. The world won't be able to ignore this stuff forever.

Experiencers are on the right side of history.


r/Experiencers 1h ago

Discussion Is this telepathy?

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I had a strange experience a few minutes ago. I was drifting off to sleep, caught in that in-between state where you're half asleep and half awake. Suddenly, I heard my name being called out in what sounded exactly like my mom's voice. It felt like she was approaching the house, but I wasn't entirely sure. The weird part is that just a few minutes later, the door to the house opened, and my mom walked in. When I talked to her about it, she mentioned that she never called out my name. It's left me wondering, was it some kind of telepathic communication? How did I sense her approaching the house if I was in a half asleep state? It's definitely got me curious.


r/Experiencers 1h ago

Discussion Is spiritual unrest/anxiety a thing?

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Photo was taking by me while camping during a thunderstorm. It was epic

Anyone else get this?

I've been experiencing this deep sense of "go do something" -- almost like anxiety or disquietude. Nothing feels wrong per se. I've had coffee. I'm also working on an extremely dull project, tech related, that is simply not what I want to do at the moment, but rather need to do, to stay in good standing with my job.

I have like 8 other projects on my desk--far more creative--that i'm dying to chomp my teeth into. So this could all be related to boredom, but it feels different.

It's an urge to help people and connect.

I feel like i want to let a blast of light explode from my chest, odd as it may seem.


r/Experiencers 13h ago

Discussion Despite our experiences its always a good idea to chill and meditate and go within. Especially when our minds are overwhelmed or filled by slotts stuff that we can honestly be better off just relaxing.

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Theres alot of theories and chatter at times. Speculations and ideas. Alot of noise. But the real focus of the game is to go within and maintaining your inner light or peace. Meditation and relaxation assists you at all times to maintain your true self. Here in this limited world we live in.

There is a phenomenon. But sometimes it acts so mysterious its better to not let it consume us. Live your life. Experience your journeys. Fr


r/Experiencers 1d ago

Discussion "Swamp Gas"

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I've been painting a series of UFO images that I repeatedly see in my dreams and/or imagination. I've seen UAP on multiple occasions, though always at a distance and never close up, so I couldn't say if these are accurate representations of the craft in our skies. I've managed to photograph a couple, but they're not great pictures. I've also photographed what I believe is a UFO I couldn't see with my naked eye. Anyway..., I just wanted to share my paintings with this community. I hope y'all dig 'em!


r/Experiencers 1d ago

Discussion I am trying to reconcile my feeling that this might be a prison planet with something else.

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I'm 76 years old so the struggle to understand the truth has become much more important to me. The idea that we are here on a farm of exploitation is not ridiculous to me because I find it hard to see that this world of ours is not dysfunctional.

I think this could be a prison planet but I think it is more likely this is a hard school. Only my near future will tell me more. Please not be a farm.


r/Experiencers 1d ago

Discussion Where do you think they originated from, in your case?

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I watched an Ancient Aliens episode yesterday. I found it interesting. Pretty informative series for people new to mysticism. It starts with a story of a Jew who had to hide from the Romans in a cave for 13 years. During that time he became very wise, and he even had a vision of I think it was prophet Elie (I don't remember the names of the people and books) The prophet instructed him truths and wisdom, even some scientific knowledge. He mentioned we are not alone, there are seven earths.

In Jewish mysticism and some Midrashic traditions, "seven earths" refers to seven distinct, layered worlds beneath our own, often arranged concentrically or in successive layers, each with its own unique properties, inhabitants, and spiritual significance.

Each earth is unique, possessing different inhabitants and conditions. 

Tevel (or Tebel): This is our familiar world, considered the largest of the seven.

Eretz: A dark, void-like earth, sometimes described as the first earth. 

Adamah: An earth with light reflected from its own sky, inhabited by sad beings. 

Arka: An earth receiving light from the sun, associated with the land of the Canaanites. 

Gai/Ge: Near Gehenna, this earth is inhabited by people skilled in arts and sciences. 

Tziya/Nishia: A desolate earth where inhabitants have no memory, or a place of handsome men with no water. 

But we can interpret the book in a different way now that we have our eyes open to the cosmos. We could say these six other earths are distant planets, or other dimensions even. But can we ignore all the sightings near certain mountains like mount Shasta and mount Adams?

Also some of you might already know that we're not alone, so I wonder if the NHI in your experience could have been from one of the six other earths. What's your opinion, insight on this?


r/Experiencers 1d ago

Discussion This singular image can be used for so many of the analogies inside my head. A grand kaleidoscope of ideas and spectrums and nuance and everything. I hope it serves you well.

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I like to look at this image every so often. It means so much, it can represent so much. It can be used to explain the spectrum of enotions, the nature of feelings and vibes, the intricacies of the hues, colors, and saturations of consiousness.

Love is great, but too much love overwhelms me. So I typically keep my edgier personality online and in real life. I choose to feel more when I feel emotionally safe. For now I live like a hermit. Just navigating, learning, and transmutting things into my knowledge base.

This picture is just a feeling I wanted to share. For you to see it. The center can be infinity, and from infinity all these aspects exist, and each of them are also infinity. And they all have their unique expressions.

There is no true black or white, because white is a combination of the all. Black is just the lack of intensity. Black is not bad, it shows, white lacks the nuance but also fuels all the intricacies. All of it is interlinked. Its all one.


r/Experiencers 1d ago

Discussion “I’ve had direct encounters with blue beings — has anyone else?”

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Recently, I saw on social media people sharing encounters with what they describe as blue beings. These entities, as their name suggests, are described as blue-like cloud entities who carry mysterious power. Feats of incredible healing and spiritual awakening are atributed to them. These testimonies called my attention because I see a blue being frequently around me when meditating or going to sleep. I have this contact since 2020, and at the time I was puzzled and very (a little bit) scared. I'd love to know if someone else had an similar unusual experience.


r/Experiencers 2d ago

Out of Body/Astral Projection Creepy Mantis Visitations

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I wanted to know if anyone else had experiences like this! I've spoken to people who've had experiences with mantid-looking beings that range from incredibly negative to ecstatic, or perhaps mind and even body-alteringly positive. Of course, plenty are that typical alien flavor of neutral where it could go either way depending on which mental threads you follow. I call the ones I interact with the Mantis (the Seers, Prophets, Diviners, etc.) and they have been a very positive force in my life.

The type of experience I'm interested in is where they're being outright creepy, but not in a way that seems like it's supposed to be scary, if that makes sense. It's a very specific vibe they have with me at times.

For example, early this morning, I was dreaming and then got pulled into what I thought was sleep paralysis, but I was able to move, only everything felt floaty. They had me in a partially subdued astral state. Everything was dark so I couldn't see them clearly, but I noticed them one at a time, or it was just one of them showing up in different spots in my room. I think they're mostly a hivemind so there's probably not much distinction anyway.

The first one was just standing there, staring at me. They, I think, had me subdued. I felt seen inside and out, but in a way that made me feel safe. Still very creepy.

The second one leaned in and I saw a strange shape near the bottom of their face. It was dark, but I think they were opening their mouth to show me it? Maybe that's how they smile? It felt like that one was literally leaning in almost to the point of merging into my body.

The third one stood at or past the foot of my bed and reached out with their long-ass arm over the entire length of the bed to do... something to my head. It felt like a tingly pat, but perhaps it was a checkup on the crown chakra, which I've heard is useful for diagnostics.

The fourth one was emerging from a fourth spatial axis above my doorframe all "I'm here!" Great! Everyone's in here, apparently! What the fuck!

So that was my morning, I remember just fading back into peaceful sleep after that.

The morning before that, I remember one of them doing what felt like scooping me right up out of my body. She was invisible, which I realized when she carried me in front of a mirror that was probably one-way. She wanted me to see the "priceless" (her words) look on my face and got me all close to the glass.

Again, very creepy and intense stuff, but there's been no fear, maybe just some nervousness at times. I think they do it to challenge my ego and because it's fun? Does anyone else experience contact like this where it's creepy but not for a bad reason?

Also, the ones I could see looked almost looks their matter was flaking off. But it was like, square particles or pieces that would like, fold off into a different dimension. Also curious if people saw that with aliens before. It looked like they were unstable, temporary projections or something.

Edit: They also told me to post this, and told me to add this part mentioning that. They're like "Yeah, we're weird, what of it?" Apparently they like when people talk about them.

Edit 2: The beings told me that the humor element was secondary. The primary purpose of this post was to hunt down a specific Archonic (overly controlling, parasitic, evil) pattern of Mantis consciousness. That was successful. The post was like holding up a mirror so you can see into a blind spot you can't normally perceive.

The potential solution to the Mantis Archons: be fucking annoying. Challenge everything a Mantis says even if they seem nice. If they blow up on you, you'll know. If they realize what's happening and patiently answer you, they're probably not dicks.


r/Experiencers 1d ago

UAP Sighting Plasma being/light experience question

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Hello, everyone. I just wanted to touch base because I'm trying to figure out what I saw tonight.

I'm a lifelong experiencer in many different ways in terms of contact as a child (repetitive contact in my dream state passing into my teens and coming from a family that has seen orbs multi-generationally). But I had never had an experience that happened to me tonight.

I was walking by a river alone to go watch the total lunar eclipse, and I was looking for the moon in the sky as I was walking down a path near a river. Then, I saw just above my head (around 50 feet to the right over the river, a very bright, wide light that kind of moved quickly like with a trail from the light), but it was very close to me. Maybe about two feet wide, but about 50 feet up to the right in the low clouds.

It was a very bright light that moved quickly in a haphazard pattern (like imagine drawing a funny pattern in the sky) and was gone within, I don't know, three to four seconds.

But as soon as I saw it, because it was so unexpected, I felt kind of like a little bit in shock, but also in awe because I knew that it was something making contact with me specifically because of the way it moved and shined super bright. It was almost like it was playing like a little laugh with me, and it was not scary at all.

In fact, it was a calming feeling, and I sat down after it did this movement very close to me, and I proceeded to communicate with whatever was out there hoping that it would show itself again. It didn't. Then, I watched the entire duration of the eclipse for an hour alone on this riverbank.

Anyways, I just wanted to know if anyone else has ever seen these kind of plasma being/light thing and what they are or what they may be. I haven't read about them much. I haven't experienced one before, and I'm not scared at all. I feel really grateful for the experience. It was almost like a peaceful, meditative feeling that arrived immediately after I saw it so I take it as a really good thing.

But if anybody has any information, I would appreciate it. Thanks so much.


r/Experiencers 2d ago

Art/Creative Nhi inspire my art, wanted to share my new piece

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I am an experiencer and have had face to face encounters as well as remote viewing experiences with several nhi going as far back as childhood. My experiences as a child inspired me to get into the art I make and it was further expanded upon in my adult years. I love my piece and think some fellow Experiencers may appreciate it.

As far as my piece: "Universal Mind"

The concept for this one is simply this: no matter where you are in the universe or what you are the truth remains the same, there is a shared awareness looking through all eyes. No matter how alien those eyes may be, it's just another filter for universal consciousness.


r/Experiencers 2d ago

Discussion Do you believe we choose our life and experiences?

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Many situations resulting in contact with other side or various NHI talk about people choosing their own life and core circumstances they will encounter. Sometimes it's being said that the Soul does it and soul doesn't fear any pain, although it implies that soul is different and independent from our known identity. Yet there are also reports of people being forced to life, about coming here unwillingly or going into human reincarnation roulette style. All those reports considered and maybe supplied by your own experiences or knowledge - Do you believe that we indeed choose our lives? If so how much degree our personality as we know it has over the process and will it be choosen again by "us" as we know ourselves or by "Soul" who can make very different choices than conscious "us" would make?


r/Experiencers 2d ago

Experience Increase in 3 - 4am visitations from colourful holographic interdimensional entities

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The 3 - 4am 'visitations' from interdimensional beings are really intense and persistent lately. They wake my 4 year old daughter and I up. My daughter recently told me she was scared of the 'ghost shark' in our room. I see 'them' in the room and in my minds eye vividly and hear their loud frequency - like a ringing loud, very high tone in my ear.

'They' hang around in our bedroom for ages, for what purpose I have no idea, but to explain what it looks like: its like a rave for colourful, sparkling, pulsating holographic looking 'spinning eyeball vortex jellyfish' looking, the best way I can describe them is - holographic interdimensional beings.

Calling on Jesus, picturing him, reciting what I remember of the Lords Prayer, playing those 'psychic protection frequency' music videos from YouTube, saying mantras about 'I am sovereign of my mind and body, I banish all lower dimensional beings who do not serve my highest good' nothing is working.

The only thing that seems to have any effect is playing Islamic Ryqyah prayers to banish evil eyes and jinn. But even that wasn't working last night

Last night, the accompanying imagery being force-fed to my minds eye was of different dimensions with a "cosmic horror" theme variety. Like I couldn't say exactly what I was seeing, but instinctively, it was disturbing, I didn't like it and couldn't stop it from happening.

Thank you so much for reading.


r/Experiencers 2d ago

UAP Sighting MIL Keeps seeing weird lights in woods outside her house

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My MIL keeps seeing lights outside of her house in her woods. There aren’t houses where it’s happening so it’s not that. She’s been seeing them for awhile and usually it’s just some small orbs that move slightly but she doesn’t seem to mind them. She is spiritually in tune. So much so she’s had to shut off that part of herself because spirits tend to gravitate towards her. I guess in the hopes of being heard or seen by someone. I don’t totally understand it but I am a believer. Last night there was three “orbs” or lights that appeared on top of each other. On top was one that was circular and kinda dimmed in and out and get really bright, sometimes it would dim so much it would disappear. But the middle and bottom lights she described as being like a weird shape that kept pulsating and morphing. All three stayed exactly where they were and didn’t move for hours. In the tree-line on other occasions there were three lines equally apart that would do the same thing but they were individual circles. She’s never seen them like this before. Some nights nothing is there. You can’t see these lights looking out the window but you can see them when you look on her security cameras. Does anyone have any idea what this could be?


r/Experiencers 2d ago

Abduction Seven Amazing Onboard UFO Encounters

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Seven Amazing Onboard UFO Encounters

by Preston Dennett

Onboard UFO encounters are perhaps the most extensive and interesting of all UFO experiences. They are also the most controversial. Skeptics try to explain these reports as the results of hoaxes, hallucinations, misperceptions or mental illness. However, an objective examination of the reports refutes these explanations. The fact is, cases like these have occurred for over 100 years, come from across the planet, and are reported by a wide variety of people. There is a reason these visitors are coming to our planet, and as the onboard cases show, the reason is us! This video presents seven little known onboard UFO encounters, each adding another piece of the puzzle toward solving the UFO mystery.

I WAS COMPLETELY PARALYZED. On November 2, 1954, Maurilio Braga Godoi was walking to his home in Santo Amaro, Brazil, and came upon a landed UFO. He wanted to run but felt himself drawn inside it. He saw a glowing map on a weird table. He was met by three short humanoids with dark skin and dark hair, wearing gray jumpsuits, who were interested in examining him. He was taken on a tour over South America and was given a strange liquid to drink before being returned. The case was investigated by the Brazilian military who classified it as unknown.

[I WAS SO SCARED. ]()Gerardo Scharff had an abusive childhood and was used as a slave by a ruthless dairy farmer in Villa Maria, Argentina. He prayed nightly for help. One night in May 1966, at age 12, a strange craft landed, and tall beings brought him onboard. They asked him about his life and gave him a tour of the craft. He was taken into space and shown the solar system. He was taken to another planet and shown an alien city. He was examined, fed a strange liquid, given prophecies of future events, and then returned. The ETs soon visited him again, providing food and helping to free him from his abusive situation.

[THEY WERE FRIENDLY. ]()One morning in July 1974, three teenage boys from Fairview, New Jersey, were walking home after playing basketball when a UFO appeared overhead. Suddenly, they found themselves inside. One of the witnesses saw his two friends being examined by gray aliens, who spoke with him telepathically. He believes they were helping his friends with their heart conditions. He counted about 25 grays. Looking out a porthole, he saw his hometown below him. Suddenly, all three were returned, and he watched the craft depart. His two friends had missing time, and had no memory of being onboard.

THEY ONLY WANTED TO HELP ME. On the night of February 28, 1984, Tom Fraser had a horrific motorbike accident in Guildford, England. Moments before hitting the ground, he saw a glowing light in the sky. In the seconds following the accident, he himself badly injured, lying on a table onboard a UFO. Gray ETs promised to heal him and said they had a mission for him. Tom was healed, and given a tour of the craft. His next memory was of waking up in a hospital with only a broken arm, which shocked the doctors as they thought he should be much more severely injured.

[WE’RE JUST CURIOUS. ]()On the night of October 13, 1994, a college student was asleep in her dorm-room in Buffalo, New York, when she woke up being levitated out of her room. Seconds later, she found herself on a metal table, unable to move, being examined by gray aliens. They communicated with her telepathically, reassuring her that they meant no harm. Suddenly she awoke back in her room. She later found a strange mark on her lower back.

[I WAS EXTREMELY SCARED. ]()On the night of June 16, 2002, two 9-year-old cousins were taking a walk near their home in Blanchard, Oklahoma when they felt a weird vibration, followed by an all-encompassing darkness. A loud whooshing sound came next and suddenly they saw a large craft hover and land next to them. Three gray ETs appeared and pulled them onboard the craft and examined them. One of them also saw a human-looking figure onboard. He also saw a tub of black liquid, before being returned. They found out that their parents had been searching for them for over an hour.

[IT GOT EXTREMELY BIZARRE. ]()One night in October 2010, Frank woke up to find himself on the balcony of his apartment in Harleysville, Pennsylvania. Directly overhead was a large craft with brilliant lights. Suddenly he felt himself floating upwards. Moments later, he was inside the craft. He was unable to focus his eyes, but recalls being physically examined by humanoid beings, and then suddenly waking up sitting, up in bed. After another later encounter, he decided that it was time to seek help.

These seven cases represent the tip of the iceberg. None of these witnesses needed hypnosis to recall their encounters. None of them are seeking attention. This sort of experience is far more common than most people believe. It represents the very heart of the UFO phenomenon. And it also has the potential to answer the many questions surrounding extraterrestrial contact. For that reason alone, these cases should be taken seriously.

Seven Amazing Onboard UFO Encounters


r/Experiencers 2d ago

Experience Hear a voice that wakes you up

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I apologize if this is something very vain, but I wanted to know if anyone has had a similar experience and if they have gone to something else.

Background: This last year I have had what is called a "spiritual awakening" which, as Alice Bailey and others said, is like a calling. I returned to Christ, which I put aside many years ago, and I have bought many philosophical and spiritual books, such as Buddha, Krishnamurti, Alice Bailey, and also about UFOlogy. I am currently reading Communion at night before going to sleep, which makes me very uneasy.

I'm not going to lie: deep inside I want a contact (but one that serves me for this spiritual progress that I seek).

Since I wanted him, less than a month ago, a series of "strange" things have happened to me since they had never happened to me before:

-Before I slept all night straight and now I sleep very lightly, I wake up several times at night and feel the need to look in the room, which looks very dark, it is as if something woke me up, but I can't feel or see anything. This happens every night.

-One night when I woke up like this, I went to the kitchen to drink water and I had a thought or impulse to go up to the roof. It is a block of flats and I have used the rooftop before to see stars, satellites, planets... As I say, it is an impulse to go up, the last time it happened it was 3:30. I didn't do it, it scared me.

THE LAST EXPERIENCE, THE STRANGER:

Tonight, something happened to me that has never happened to me in my 39 years of life. I was woken up by a voice that seemed to me to speak directly to my face. I slept on my side facing the edge of the bed. The voice came from that edge, in front of my face. It was a raspy, serious, threatening voice that said two words and I woke up suddenly. My wife was on the opposite side from where the voice came from and I turned around thinking she had spoken to me and I said to her: did you say something? but she didn't hear me since she was sleeping and then I thought that the voice had come from the opposite side and it couldn't have been her melodious woman's voice... since it was a deep, raspy male voice (I would say like that of a "demon", but I don't really know what a demon's voice is like, I explain it that way because it wasn't melodious or friendly).

Clarify that I did not feel anything physical, any contact with my skin or body. Yes, I am having dreams now more than ever (I haven't had dreams for many months). The last dream the night before the voice dream was very strange: I was a member of a group that works in a desert (I don't remember what job it was). I know that there was a kind of building and reception where you had to sign in that you were going to work, and from there you went out to the desert area... The fact is that the afternoon before tonight when I heard the voice I was meditating and I returned as a kind of self-hypnosis to that place and when I wanted to leave the reception to the other side, the receptionist turned into a demon and wanted to prevent me from leaving, I burned it and when I left there was the universe and I felt very good and free. Then I had an image of myself meditating and saw how several demons rushed at me aggressively and I burned them one by one. It would be between 5 or 10, I don't remember. Then I was calm. Lately I have had a lot of problems with physical tension and tightness when awake, tightness in the eyes, tics, and now it seems that they have gone away a little, although not completely, they are not as virulent.

The physical discomfort and those tightness and discomfort began when I started reading my spiritual books and changed my way of being, since I was very emotional and aggressive in my life and I became calmer and more in control, something that my family noticed with joy. I have seen the discomforts as attacks, perhaps from entities, but I am not sure.


r/Experiencers 2d ago

Experience Future Projection?

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Hi, im new here and I don’t even know if this is the right topic, sorry for my bad English lol. I’ll share my experience that happened a few years ago. I was basically watching TV with my dad in the living room when I saw everything that happened an hour later—all the conversations, everything being said on TV, everything. It basically felt like déjà vu, only much longer and more vivid. I still remember it, but it only happened to me once. Has something similar happened to you too?


r/Experiencers 2d ago

Discussion Flash of white

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I’ve been experiencing random intermittent flashes of light when I look up at the sky. It’s as if everything is covered in a brilliant flash and I’ll hear and sort of feel a subtle energy accompanied by a distant hum of frequency. Definitely not the strangest thing I’ve felt but its subtle nature and the relaxing feeling I get from it is entirely new to me


r/Experiencers 2d ago

Discussion Relationship between reality creation and mental dysfunctions

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Hello! I'm sure many of you have heard before about various NDEs or encounters where people were told how our attention and assumption changes reality. If you have not then here's extra quick summary: Apparently holding the image of desires future, being attuned to the vision of what we want, acting and thanking the universe as if it already happened (because technically it already exists but it's whole different story) is what creates material reality of a person. One can say Law Of Attraction/Law of Assumption kind of thing.

However while it may be true, there must be some more rules and mechanics at play because we have observable examples of it not working like that (sometimes for better, sometimes for worse).

For example - Narcissist who's obsessed with the idea of being brilliant singer who's voice is loved to the deepest degree is full of real, deep believe in their ability even if their screatch is impossible to listen for more than a minute. They will deny any criticism and will go through life absolutely certain about their success - and yet, they still cannot sing and their assumed career in a music industry never happens.

The opposite example would be a hypochondriac who is certain that they are gravely ill, even when nothing happens, but their belief about their certain and incoming demise is there with full force. And yet they live to 93 in perfect health.

Now, I'd like to understand those mechanics deeper. What makes these many times repeated rules manifest or not and how it interacts with mental illness or dysfunction? Narcissism, OCD, Hypochondria, Depression, Survivors Guilt, Su**ide ideation and many others, that despite changing the whole perception and belief of a person can seemingly have no effect on physical reality.

The better we understand this topic the better we can protect ourselves from unwanted outcomes and easier manifest what we wish for.

I wish you all peace of mind, love and happiness.


r/Experiencers 2d ago

Discussion Black and White Spirit

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Hi, I’m new to this sub and wanted to know if anyone knows what I experienced.

Recently we moved into a new place. We are Catholic. The house was built a year ago. Shortly after we moved in some one unalived themselves next door. It was the girlfriend of the resident. My wife (25F) and kids (3F, 2M) were at home.

As a Catholic I always have a house blessed once a year. I also had the priest do an exorcism of the property. I just say that to say I believe my house is protected from evil.

Recently my kids were seeing what they called a “scary guy”. They would stare at random spots in rooms especially my son. They would randomly ask questions about the scary guy.

My wife mentioned it a couple times. I heard a couple comments. They are young enough that if they see an unsettling picture or show or anything they will obsess and talk about “scary guys”. I asked them about it in the car once and my daughter (3) made it sound like they were comfortable around it. She said she liked it and it didn’t say anything to her.

Later that week my wife said it was becoming more frequent and we needed to figure it out. I put holy water around the house and prayed and asked for protection for my kids.

Our kids were sleeping with us and I woke up in the middle of the night to see a strange figure hunched over my son. It was white to about the waste and had a black lower half. It looked like it was whispering in his ear. I tried to brush it away and said “get out of here”. I had just woken up so probably a weird reaction. I began praying out loud and it disappeared. That was enough for me to start looking into it.

I did ask my daughter the next day what it looked like. She said it was black.. and it was white.

I just started thinking it can’t be evil. My kids aren’t afraid of it and haven’t started acting up in any way. I have never heard of anything evil coming to a place where you have prayed and sprinkled holy water. I told my wife it’s probably a soul in purgatory that needs our help. Since I have started praying for the souls in purgatory the kids haven’t seen or talked about it and neither have I.

Also I haven’t been able to find any info on black and white spirits. They are usually black or white. If anyone has a similar experience or more information I’m interested.

I have had experiences with paranormal before but this was so different.


r/Experiencers 2d ago

Experience On the nature of Phoenixes

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I had some rather interesting insights during meditation today. I was shown memories and experiences from my phoenix companion ~ of themselves, of their world and its nature. Or how my phoenix companion understands it through their perspectives.

I shall now proceed to just ramble, because I don't have much structure for this, other than to document my experience:

The phoenixes themselves are not really made of fire ~ that's just how their energies can appear. I tried comprehending the name they have for themselves, but I couldn't pin it down: "firebird", "starwing", "ones of light", etc. There is a theme of them relating themselves to their star, it seems, though... another thing touched on for a moment was that they don't have "laws" ~ rather, they have principles they live by. They have an "emperor" and "empress", as it were, but they moreso just act as a guiding light for their kind to live by.

Their world, including they themselves, seem to be composed of light ~ it's their version of "matter", but it's not really at all like matter. It has qualities and behaviours to it that allow it to be shaped into forms. The light can become solid ~ like "physical" objects. There is no hot or cold there ~ but there are differences in densities of light, having different depths and states, and that seemed to be quite a struggle for them to translate into anything I could comprehend. How they count time, I don't know, but a daylight, as it were, seemed to be about 8 hours compared to our sense of them, with night also being 8 hours, roughly. I got a sense that their world is spherical, but no idea how their world relates to their star. Apparently, phoenixes can die if they go to a density of light that is too low ~ they "suffocate", as it were... there's one such story I was told of a phoenix who apparently tried flying far up into the sky towards their star, and died as a result.

They also don't have "male" and "female" in their world. They do have 2 "sexes" as it were, but they're more akin to what were described as distinctly radiant and shining, with those words also not really conveying how they appear or feel. The radiant and shining pair come together, coalesce as one for a moment, and from that union an egg is formed. There is no "female" because the egg is formed within their union, appearing between after they separate.

Another topic of fascination was their language ~ they communicate in light, but it's not a verbal language nor is it telepathy. They have a library of "books" that are written in this language of light, but it was described and shown that these "books" are orbs of light that pertain to distinct entities, with distinct aspects about that entity being detailed therein as branching paths of information. Each branch is a certain subject matter about that entity, with sub-branches having more descriptive details about different aspects of that subject. I queried about why there isn't something about abstract topics, for example, and the answer I got was that it's not an entity, so it's too vague. It does make finding information apparently a bit tricky, as you have to know what you're looking for, and what orb to look through.

Apparently my phoenix companion would get lost in just reading all the time, being the scholarly type, and their parents were worried that they would just get buried in that, so they decided that some real world experience was needed, and that I was considered a good teacher in that regard. I've met the father once... and he seemed perfectly at ease talking to me, though I had nothing but a very curious deja vu I couldn't place. He spoke in a very slow regal and formal, yet causal, tone. I have no idea what they saw in me, though... or my soul, rather. But by whatever standards they consider, I am, apparently...