r/exredpill • u/Responsible_Ask2399 • Jul 28 '25
Does tea app proves the red pillers are right about false rape accusations
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u/Yamureska Jul 28 '25
Has anyone on the Tea App actually accused Men of Rape? The videos and all complaining about it usually have Men complaining about Women accusing them of "Staring creepily" etc.
Rape is one of the hardest crimes to prove due to social biases ("It's not rape if you enjoyed it") and the concept of "Consent" relying heavily on Eyewitness testimony, see Neil Gaiman insisting he was just doing "BDSM play" with Women. Statistics demonstrate that the majority of Rape "Accusations" don't result in convictions, so it doesn't make sense for Women (or any Rape Victim because Men can be raped) to falsely accuse anyone of a crime that's hard to prove.
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u/SaltSpecialistSalt Jul 31 '25
just accusing someone of rape is enough to destroy their lives in most cases. they get socially ostracized permanently, loose their jobs and spend fortune to defend themselves. there is no reason to try to paint a picture like rape is not taken seriously by society or downplay the seriousness of false accusations
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u/Yamureska Jul 31 '25
The current President of the United States won re-election despite being accused by multiple women of Rape but okay.
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u/SaltSpecialistSalt Jul 31 '25
rich powerful people might have enough resources survive it, it doesnt apply to general population. if you watch the videos you will see how false accusations destroy lives of not only men but woman as well
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u/meleyys Jul 31 '25
Men are significantly more likely to be raped than falsely accused of rape. https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-men-are-more-likely-to-be-raped-than-be-falsely-accused-of-rape
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u/SaltSpecialistSalt Jul 31 '25
even if we assume it is true (which i doubt) what does it have to do with what i wrote ? you are just trying to derail the discussion
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u/meleyys Jul 31 '25 edited Jul 31 '25
My point is that if you actually gave a shit about men's issues, you'd spend your time advocating for male rape victims rather than complaining about such a minuscule issue. And it's just objectively true. Read the link or google it.
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u/ShitsAndGigglesTHAWY Jul 28 '25
False accusations don’t have to involve police for them to be harmful. And they don’t even have to involve rape for them to be harmful.
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u/Yamureska Jul 28 '25
OP was asking about Rape specifically though, not "False accusations" in General.
I mentioned the Social Stigma around Rape victims and the difficulty of proving Consent ("It's not rape if they enjoyed it") so unless a rapist suffers consequences (like Prison) it's not really relevant.
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u/ShitsAndGigglesTHAWY Jul 28 '25
You still fail to consider the nature of most false accusations. Most don’t involve police and they don’t have to for there to be material consequences against a person who’s been accused. Social stigma doesn’t apply to the users of this app and others like it because the posts are completely anonymous. And I do not take the claim of social stigma seriously when you won’t acknowledge that as a potential serious consequence for the accused and especially when theres this standing expectation in spaces like this to believe the accuser by default, regardless of what the accused states or what the evidence is.
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u/Yamureska Jul 28 '25
Again: OP was asking about Rape accusations specifically so I don't care about "False accusations" i in General
Believe the accuser by default
I'll take things that never happened for 500, alex, especially because, as I showed, Rape seldom results in serious consequences IRL.
What are the "consequences" gonna be? Women won't talk to someone falsely accused anymore? Lol. Real life doesn't work that way and there are plenty of Women who still stick by abusive partners or rapists, because at the end of the day, Women are people and don't all think alike lol.
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u/ShitsAndGigglesTHAWY Jul 28 '25
Things that apply to false accusations generally, also apply to false rape accusations specifically. Thats how that works.
I specified that that standing expectation to believe accusers by default was present in spaces like this. Did not say that was true for society writ large.
What are the consequences going to be?
Well yeah, some women will refuse to associate. Which is bad. It is bad when people’s reputation is harmed by lies. People can lose jobs. Which is bad because people need jobs to eat and house themselves. People can lose friends and family members and become isolated from their communities. Which is bad because these personal connections are what makes life worth living. Their mental health can suffer; male suicide rates are nothing to scoff at. They can face campaigns of harassment. They can even be literally murdered for it (ever hear of Emmett Till?).
I’d encourage you to actually listen to some of the people negatively affected by posts on these anonymous apps to see some of the consequences for yourself.
And accepting that this a problem doesn’t mean you have start acting like rape isn’t. You don’t have to pick one or the other. You can have empathy for people, generally, and weigh claims (especially those made anonymously on a dumb app) based on the available evidence and make a decision once you have all the information.
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u/Yamureska Jul 28 '25
things that apply to false accusations generally also apply to false rape accusations specifically
Uhh, no? Because as I said Rape is one of the hardest crimes to prove, lol. Accusing someone of robbery, murder, etc is one thing, accusing someone of rape is another.
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u/ShitsAndGigglesTHAWY Jul 28 '25
Uhh, yes. You’re still only acting like rape accusations can only occur in a criminal context. The fact that they’re hard to prove criminally is exactly what makes accusations outside of a criminal context possible.
With a murder, there’s usually either a body or a missing person, right? So I can’t just go on social media accusing someone of murder without at least that much evidence to establish the claim. Not the case with rape. Rape is something that most often occurs between two people in total privacy and doesn’t always leave physical evidence.
Does that make it hard to prove in court? Yes.
Does that make it much, much easier to make claims outside of court? Say on a social media app where the claimant is anonymous and it can’t easily be traced back to them? Also, yes.
But you’ll pretend like the latter either doesn’t happen or, if it does, you’ll just assume that the accused deserves it.
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u/Yamureska Jul 28 '25
Does that make it much, much easier to make claims outside of court? Say on a social media app where the claimant is anonymous and it can't be easily be traced back to them? Also, yes.
Bruh, go outside and touch grass. People are complaining about Pedro Pascal inappropriately touching Women (true or not true) yet he's still famous and working in movies. The same is true for Justin Baldoni, who still has a sizable support base, including Many Women.
I wasn't just talking about a "criminal" context re: rape, lol.
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u/ShitsAndGigglesTHAWY Jul 28 '25
The vast majority of men aren’t Pedro Pascal or Justin Baldoni who were already rich and already have massive fanbases. If you can’t see how something like this would affect an ordinary man differently from a celebrity, then there’s really no conversation that we can have.
And yeah, you were. Because you keep falling back on it being “one of the hardest crimes to prove” and on conviction rates.
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u/ThreeArmedYeti Jul 28 '25
The Tea app is problematic for other reasons, alerting about rapists is not one of them.
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u/Personal_Dirt3089 Jul 28 '25
I both want to say that is an absurd jump in logic and the tea app is toxic for completely unrelated reasons instead, but I also want to congratulate you on top tier bait, peak bait even. There will never be bait of this level on reddit again.
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u/HLMaiBalsychofKorse Jul 28 '25
WHAT?!?! How would the existence of a "report your shitty ex so other girls can avoid him" app *prove* that women make false rape accusations?
If you don't have a great answer for that, I am going to assume you are a fully terrible individual.
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u/impressablenomad38 Jul 28 '25
Men angry because women are now telling on them. This has broken the damn and it's not going to go away. Prepare for natural selection to take place 😌 because they won't be reproducing anymore
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u/ShitsAndGigglesTHAWY Jul 28 '25
Because women are also capable of being “the shitty ex” and can (and have) used this unmoderated platform where they can post anonymously to defame and dox men. Everyone treats false accusations like they’re only harmful if the police are involved but that’s simply not true. And not every false accusation has to be about rape, specifically, for it to be harmful.
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u/flavius_lacivious Jul 28 '25
I wonder if you have the same level of concern about men who cheat?
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u/ShitsAndGigglesTHAWY Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25
I’ll tell you straight up that I don’t have the “same level of concern” which I’m sure will be construed as my having no concern.
Cheating is bad and is not something we should encourage. But people can and do recover from it. Couples can and do reconcile after it. Partners who are cheated on can go on to find healthier relationships. Cheaters can also do some introspection and maturing and also go on to find healthy relationship.
I am far more concerned with the many false statements made on apps like this and the doxxing by several orders of magnitude because those can have material consequences that are harder to recover from. And you should be too. Because you would rightly be horrified if an app where men circulated the exact same kind of information (names, addresses, phone numbers, and other personal information) blew up to Tea’s level of popularity.
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u/flavius_lacivious Jul 28 '25
So you don’t think deadly STDs (think cervical cancer) is a material consequence?
And don’t you find cheating to be a far bigger problem than the minuscule number of women who falsely accuse a man?
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u/ShitsAndGigglesTHAWY Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25
That’s a hilarious strawman. Lmfao.
And this app has thousands upon thousands of active users so it’s by no means minuscule.
And no, I don’t think cheating is a bigger problem than the many posed by apps like this. I’ve already said as much and explained why. Cheating is an interpersonal failing caused by a lack of emotional maturity. This app reveals how fragile our right to privacy actually is in our society. That is a thousand times more important.
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u/flavius_lacivious Jul 29 '25
I don’t think you know what “strawman” means. Cervical cancer is deadly, and there are for more sexually transmitted diseases spread through infidelity. It’s far worse than women wrongly accusing a man of rape.
Both of these ruins lives. You seem only concerned if a man is harmed but not a woman.
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u/xvszero Jul 28 '25
Right but the question OP posed was specifically about rape.
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u/ShitsAndGigglesTHAWY Jul 28 '25
We aren’t limited to solely what the OP asked. We can and should use it as a springboard to expand upon. And of course, the comment I made also applies to false rape accusations specifically.
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u/xvszero Jul 28 '25
Well, the answer to the question that OP asked depends on the specific thing OP asked about.
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u/ShitsAndGigglesTHAWY Jul 28 '25
Ok but I’m not OP. And I’m talking about stuff that’s related to what OP said. That’s how conversations work. They don’t stay in one place
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u/Dumbbjuice89 Aug 07 '25
Just because a man says he was falsely accused doesnt mean he was falsely accused. Just because there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute doesnt mean he was falsely accused.
Newsflash- all criminals claim they are innocent
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u/octave120 Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 29 '25
I’m sure that you will find anecdotes of misuse if you look for it. If redpillers want to claim that it does more harm than good, though, then the burden of proof is on them to establish it.
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