r/exredpill • u/Aggravating-Rain-30 • 20d ago

Animal behavior

Why are outdated examples of wildlife behavior, especially wolves, used as part of incel “philosophy”?? It makes no sense and doesn’t resemble what actual wild animals do.

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u/PutsWomenOnPedestal 19d ago

I meant that we are still driven to seek food and sex like animals. The details are irrelevant

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u/LurdOfTheGraveyurd 19d ago edited 19d ago

It’s not an irrelevant detail that humans actually think about and plan their actions in a way other animals do not. Humans are capable of controlling themselves. That's a monumental difference.

  1. Humans seek food because we literally need food to live. You will die if you don’t eat. Not sure why you brought this up.
    Plus, the fact that humans focus on the pleasure of eating differentiates us from other animals. It takes actual starvation to make a human eat like a wild animal.

  2. Huge swaths of humanity believe having sex outside of very specific circumstances is a crime against nature and the divine. Humans have a long history of sexual repression and oppression. Even if you’re not weird about sex, controlling yourself when horny is a basic social requirement.
    With baser animals, their sex drive makes them have sex, which then may make offspring, but not only have humans figured out how to satisfy that drive without procreating, humans oftentimes plan when they’re going to procreate. Do some humans not care and keep popping out kids? Yes, but that’s very heavily correlated with education and socioeconomic status. Humans, unlike animals, can be taught to consider the consequences of their actions and manage their behaviour and instincts to avoid those consequences.

Humans being animals says basically nothing about our behaviour beyond some basic physical necessities. Modelling our behaviour off of non-human animals is insane. Nobody’s looking at the mating practices of orcas and declaring that this says something about kangaroos.
It’s absurd.

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u/PutsWomenOnPedestal 19d ago

Sorry, I was being flippant and I admit my statement was too broad to be useful. I was trying to say that our fate isn’t different from any other animal. We eat, breed and die. How and when we do it as individuals doesn’t change our destiny as a species. But I agree that’s not relevant to the thread.

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u/LurdOfTheGraveyurd 18d ago

I appreciate the clarification. I wasn’t sure if you were being serious or not, but felt that a serious answer was warranted because redpillers and their ilk put real stock in this weird animal biological essentialism stuff.

On the topic of the end of all things, being an optimistic nihilist myself, I would say that the one thing that humans have over other animals is that we live on a little longer than them in the people who knew us and sometimes loved us.
Everyone’s gonna die, but after my turn, I hope I’m someone’s fond memory someday.

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u/PutsWomenOnPedestal 18d ago

Happy to come across a fellow optimistic nihilist!

we live on a little longer than them in the people who knew us and sometimes loved us

Now you are making me tear up …