r/google 2d ago

Googles AI overview is not it.

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u/username-invalid-s 2d ago

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u/TheWorldIsNice 2d ago

You don't get, Google = bad, ai = trash, let's go reddit

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u/No_Tackle_3249 1d ago

What's the font my guy

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u/username-invalid-s 1d ago

It's Google Sans Flex. New font with the Android 16 Material 3 Expressive update.

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u/No_Tackle_3249 1d ago

I'm also using pixel, your using bold font right?

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u/username-invalid-s 1d ago

oop. yup! i always thought the interface pixels use, fit with the bold fonts perfectly

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u/duluoz1 2d ago

I’m amazed how willing some companies have been to put AI tools into production given how unreliable the results are

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u/cosmic_backlash 1d ago

It's because it's grounded in search. OP doesn't show where the link goes, it's to the Oreo Twitter account that says Oreo spelled backwards is Oreo. Regular search results does this too. The problem is the internet isn't truthful, and search overview results grounds on the internet.

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u/Gaiden206 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yup, AI Overview just attempts to give an overview of the top search results related to the users search query. The search results for OPs query are just a bunch of webpages saying "Oreo spelled backwards is Oreo."

Seems like people don't understand what the word "overview" means.

Overview- a general review or summary

Overview + Google search results = a general review or summary of the search results. 😂

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u/General-Tennis5877 18h ago

That is the answer! Google is a search engine not a truth engine... Users need to be educated.

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u/Resident-Rutabaga336 1d ago

To be fair, these kinds of questions (reverse a word, count the letters in a word, tell me which number is bigger) are just a very specific failure modes of LLMs due to the current tokenization scheme. It has nothing to do with accuracy on things like information retrieval or more important use cases. The labs haven’t addressed this problem yet because they think people are smart enough to know this and not ask the models for these questions, but obviously they aren’t.

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u/mntgoat 2d ago

People get shit wrong all the time and the internet is filled with incorrect data. I would say an AI based on that is probably going to make mistakes until it gets much smarter. That doesn't mean it isn't incredibly useful.

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u/duluoz1 2d ago

I’m not sure where you work, but I can’t think of many companies that would go live with products that make this many errors

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u/donniedarko1010 1d ago

I think Google has been forced to do this otherwise startups like ChatGPT eat all their lunch.

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u/mntgoat 2d ago

Companies release software products with bugs all the time. Heck, nowadays is like the standard for games to come out with lots of bugs. Even cars have a ton more issues on their first generations.

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u/duluoz1 1d ago

These aren’t bugs. The products are just not good enough to go live with.

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u/dawggl 1d ago

And this is a BAD thing

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u/AgeZealousideal6865 2d ago

I have felt that way about computers generally since the early 90s.

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u/harmyb 2d ago

It's crazy. Gemini does it perfectly.

What model is the AI search using? Because it's certainly not the same as Gemini.

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u/-Kerrigan- 2d ago edited 2d ago

Search often pulls data from search results to synthesize a "summary" using AI (hence the name)

Even 2.5 Flash gets it right

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u/harmyb 2d ago

I guess when it's using Facebook as one of its sources, you can guarantee "shit in, shit out"

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u/-Kerrigan- 2d ago

Bingo! Facebook and Threads

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u/chilldpt 2d ago

Haha the Google search AI overview should not be pulling from Facebook or threads unless the question is related to the platform or content on that platform. I also imagine the Google AI overview is a significantly worse model than Gemini pro. AI is expensive and these AI overviews run for free and automatically on every Google search that it can work on. This must be a crazy expensive feature for Google either way

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u/georgemoore13 2d ago edited 1d ago

I'd guess Google is using an even smaller/cheaper model than Gemini Flash.

Even though Gemini Flash is relatively cheap and fast, think about how many times people Google search each day. Adding Gemini 2.5 inference to each Google search likely would increase Google's cost of a search by like ....300% or something

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u/sbenfsonwFFiF 1d ago

They are all on Gemini but various versions, which cost different amounts to run

Broadly Gemini has improved a lot very quickly but once in a while can mess up like that

I’d say Gemini (the chat bot) and AI Mode are far better, esp the paid versions. AI overviews can be a miss sometimes

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u/The_Volecitor 1d ago

the search ai refers fromactual web search and in one of the twitter posts by oreo, its written that oreo spelled backwards is oreo

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u/Shameless_Bullshiter 2d ago

Why are you googling that?

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u/brandonsp111 2d ago

So we can complain how Google = bad!

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u/SmartieCereal 1d ago

Because this sub has devolved into nothing but people sitting around asking hundreds of ridiculous questions until they finally get a wrong answer so they can post here.

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u/infowars_1 1d ago

I’d be okay with Google removing Ai overview. Just keep Ai mode and make it a good model.

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u/rathat 1d ago

Did you CLICK THE SOURCE!?

You guys posting these never click the source.

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u/EnvironmentalShift25 1d ago

They reference the previous halluciniations when I Google it in a browser

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u/_Frustr8d 1d ago

It seems that it's using this joke tweet as a reference and stating it as a fact 🙄
https://x.com/Oreo/status/1608565176089083904

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u/THe_PrO3 1d ago

We used to have a rule on this sub against posts like this. Please add it back

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u/flavius-as 2d ago

The Gemini model though is doing fine.

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u/JustConsoleLogIt 1d ago

This is what happens when AI is trained on redditors

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u/Kasiux 1d ago

&udm=14 is your answer

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u/Jade-GloryTechnology 1d ago

okay Google so you said they're the same but you've said they weren't at the same time-

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u/Retrogamer5421 1d ago

I wish there was a way to turn this "Feature" off. It really shouldn't be forced on users, especially since it's frequently wrong. Also, Google is supposed to be a search engine, not an answer generator.

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u/Buckwheat469 1d ago

This happens in Google Search, not Gemini. It may be using 2.0 or 2.5 Flash while Gemini uses 2.5 Pro.

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u/IAmAtomato 10h ago

Google AI is actually i thinking clinically off the xan as they would say

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u/NintyFanBoy 1d ago

I don't get that....

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u/Elephant789 1d ago

I hate how these stupid posts get so many upvotes and get into my feed. People have no idea what the AI Overviews are for or they're just being silly.

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u/CenturionEaz 2d ago edited 1d ago

Bro I just used it for my exams today (all sites were blocked). And now I see this post. So guys, am I cooked?????

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u/Resident-Rutabaga336 1d ago

This is a really specific quirk of tokenization. It doesn’t relate to accuracy on other types of questions

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u/filfy_toad 2d ago

I fucking hate the AI overview

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u/amagimercatus 1d ago

They are probably using a very weak model for this so it scales better and doesn't use so much energy

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u/fakeittillumakeit321 2d ago

What else do you expect from a bipolar chimp? Google Search will be dead in a few years.

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u/GeneralLeeWON 1d ago

Google's AI overview is wrong so often, yet I see a ton of people posting screenshots of it trying to use it as a source for their arguments. It's sad how many people blindly believe it just because it comes from Google. I've had to argue with people on how it's not a reputable source.

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u/StickyThickStick 1d ago

The llm used in googles search engine is EXTREMLY lightweight and such hallucinations are impossible to reduce unless Google wants to pay a fortune per search query

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u/Parthros 1d ago

The other day, I searched for "Michael Ian Black Superman" and the AI overview said that "Michael B. Jordan will be playing the next Superman." Jesus H. Christ.....

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u/ElectricalCreme7728 2d ago

🖕 Google