r/grandorder • u/Elfishjuggler33 WE WON LIP FANS • Aug 02 '25
JP Discussion Most Used 1, 2, 3, and 4 star servants
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u/Beowolf_0 Champions of Injustice since 2011 Aug 02 '25
Herc will be forever remembered as the Last Defence Line of Humanity.
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u/NeonNKnightrider Aug 02 '25
Hércules and Cu Chulainn are the “when you need an extra who will not fucking die” squad
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u/DivinityPen Aug 02 '25
WHO PUT THE GLAD IN GLADIATOR?
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u/Blitzrick3 Gorgon did nothing wrong Aug 02 '25
Hér
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u/DivinityPen Aug 02 '25
WHOSE DARING DEEDS ARE GREAT THEATRE?
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u/libra102206 :medjed: Aug 02 '25
Hercules
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u/DivinityPen Aug 02 '25
IS HE BOLD?!
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u/CaptSaveAHoe55 a Cù dude Aug 03 '25
No one braver
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u/DivinityPen Aug 03 '25
IS HE SWEET?!
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u/Jovahexeon-Ranvexeon :Suzuka: Aug 03 '25
Our favorite flavor!
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u/DivinityPen Aug 03 '25
HER-CU-LEEES! HER-CU-LEEES!
HER-CU-LEEES! HER-CU-LEEES!
HER-CU-LEEES! HER-CU-LEEEEEEEEES-
BLESS MY SOUL, HERC WAS ON A ROLL!
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u/FateFan2002 Aug 02 '25
Only 3 post launch units is crazy.
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u/Retzal Aug 02 '25
It's likely data from the 10 years of the game, that's probably why there are "weird" placements such as Hans being above Gong, Kiyohime being there instead of Xu Fu, or Tama Cat making the cut while Habetrot or Hakuno didn't.
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u/atropicalpenguin Aug 02 '25
Are the Hakunos good? I admit I've never looked at them.
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u/hykilo Aug 02 '25
Card shuffling support, also star gen, basically best at what they do
The rest of their kit is rather obsolete, though it does save materials and QPs
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u/Retzal Aug 02 '25
They are mostly used because their first skill allows you to shuffle your hand and gain stars in exchange of 10% of their NP gauge (for example, a MLB Kaleidoscope on them can give you 10 hand shuffles and 10 stars per shuffle). The CD of the skill at lvl 10 is 0, so you can just spam it until you get the hand you want. Since they are a FP summon servant it's also easy to just make them a E-Sport servant that you can kill off after getting the cards you want. If you don't want to use them as E-Sports units their second skill allows them to gain buffs depending on the face cards they use, for example Quick gives them a 1 turn Evade, and Arts gives them 20% NP (not NP gain, flat out 20% extra NP bar charge).
They also have interesting gimmicks, like being the only unit capable of piercing Solemn Defense or being able to choose if they want Anti-Heaven, Anti-Earth or Anti-Human attack up.
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u/atropicalpenguin Aug 02 '25
Multiple reshuffles? Damn, sounds like a good CQ servant too.
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u/Retzal Aug 02 '25
Indeed, they are basically used for CQ in which you need a specific hand at some point.
They can also somehow "omnifarm" since they are a Buster Moon Cancer servant with a 30% battery and free NP5, but I'd bet their damage leaves quite a bit to be desired when compared to the top tiers even at NP 1.
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u/MukiTensei Aug 02 '25 edited Aug 02 '25
Lancelot is in 2nd place and there's still no 3 turns buff to his np gain skill??!!
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u/Kytas Aug 02 '25
He was the best general Looper in the game for about 2 years. No amount of QP can refund the amount of jet fuel he must have burned through...
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u/Metroplex7 Saber Alter is my wife Aug 02 '25
I remember those times like it was yesterday...
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u/ThreexoRity . Emiya Simp Aug 02 '25
Real, even when I got Castoria, Berserklot was still working overtime cause there were rarely any Arts looper at the time, Anastasia maybe, but not much as it was today.
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u/AtomSlade Aug 03 '25
So true I made him fly so much that he's apart of my og 5, which are servants I used so much since day one that are to this day the only ones who got to bond 10 because of how limited the early days of FGO was.
They are Saber lily, Archer Emiya, Assassin Carmilla, Berserker Lancelot, and Hercules. The running ups are Merlin, Skadi, Edmond, Cu, Riakou and Angra at 9.
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u/clideb50 Aug 02 '25
Morgan, Lancelot, and Arash with either Castoria or Waver in the 1st reserve slot are my go to general farming team.
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u/Key-Poem9734 Aug 02 '25
He's just too cool
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u/ClosingFrantica Aug 02 '25
It's crazy how he still holds up with minimal support. I'd Grail him to 120 if getting coins for 4* servants wasn't so damn inconvenient.
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u/110110100011110 Aug 02 '25
I would still be using him if I didn't get Sen no Rikyu. He does one thing, but he does that one thing very well.
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u/TheTwinFangs " Buster > All" Aug 02 '25
Herc still being the most used 4 Stars after 10 years over Emiya the litteral poster boy.
And yet we won't have a single figure, other class.
I guess Grand Duel coronation was something at least
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u/SpaceOdysseus23 Aug 02 '25
Emiya has also gotten 5 buffs, Herc got 1 in that timespan
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u/Cant-think-a-name Aug 02 '25
You say that like that means he's weak
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u/TheTwinFangs " Buster > All" Aug 02 '25
To be fair Herc with 5 buffs would need to be a 6 Stars, 20 deployment cost and use a command spell each time you use it lmao
A NP upgrade would be nice tho
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u/DefiantBalls Aug 02 '25
Emiya had an absolutely horrible kit at launch, with 3 Arts card despite having a Buster NP and his only steroid was Arts. Imo, they should have just made his NP change last 3 turns and his Rainbow buff into a 3 time 3 turn one as well, he still isn't that insane even after all of his buffs.
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u/niqniqniq Aug 02 '25
I miss farming with zercalot
Even though he never got any buff
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u/Sea-Line-5123 Aug 02 '25
So true lol,
I remember having Arash, Lancelot, and 2 caster skadi to do 3 turn farm.
Berserker Lancelot was the aoe quick unit for quite a while.
(Especially because the dev, trying to make newer aoe quick unit unable to loop.)
Quick meta with Lancelot for Aoe and Melt for st.
Man that was long time ago...
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u/MrStalfos Aug 02 '25
For sure especially if he's high NP and you grail him a bit. What really holds him back is his NP gain buff being single turn. Really hurts on those single enemy nodes.
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u/SomeoneElseTwoo "Aiming For the Biggest Daughteru." Aug 02 '25
Surprised Chen Gong is only second
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u/Beowolf_0 Champions of Injustice since 2011 Aug 02 '25
I mean, Anderson is a budget Waver/Merlin post-buff so it's not really surprising.
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u/Bashin-kun Aug 02 '25
Oberon comps makes him less powerful i guess
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u/Beowolf_0 Champions of Injustice since 2011 Aug 02 '25
Nah, Oberon makes his last fireworks even more powerful.
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u/armdaggerblade Aug 02 '25
Probably because many prefer using system-specific farmers that only require 1 meta/good support+1 borrow instead of Gong Cannon that requires multiple good buffers to be real good. Hans is just that good for his utilities and cost, and if you grail+fou him enough you'd also fix his paper-thin HP.
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u/KazeDaze Summer Kuro is home Aug 02 '25
Herc in 1st place like the goat he is, truly getting carried by the whole fandom because TM refuses to do something with him.
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u/UnfilteredSan Aug 02 '25
Always love seeing these.
Remember folks, this is likely most used of ALL TIME. That’s why there are so many OG Servants in the top spot.
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u/BobtheBac0n Aug 02 '25
I'm glad to see Nito up there. The OG AOE Rapid Casting servant. Schez would be proud
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u/Daerus Aug 02 '25
She is great for daily money farming in Ordeal Call too. Just get Amakusa's CE.
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u/Drapion54 Aug 02 '25
Or equip the Mystic Code that reduces Death Resistence on the enemy for a turn.
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u/ImAgentDash Aug 02 '25
I contributed to Kiyohime's place.
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u/aethersentinel Aug 02 '25
Kiyo is one of my go-to Servants if I have exactly seven cost left in the budget, because she kills everything except Foreigners.
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u/ImAgentDash Aug 02 '25
Love her, her burst turns is great.
I brings her in almost every team with Kaleido
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u/simon4s1 Aug 02 '25
Ten years on and still, if you need a male saber or berserker dead quick, it's Euryale Time.
Nito as the most used 4 star? Yeah, I can see that.
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u/Daerus Aug 02 '25
Nito as the most used 4 star? Yeah, I can see that.
Dail Ordeal Call will not farm itself ;)
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u/CrazyDaimondDaze Jalter/Castoria/Musashi Enjoyer Aug 02 '25
I'm guilty of making Cat top 5. Had to bond her to bond 15 and eventually had fun trying to make her useful as a glass cannon with double Swimsuit Skadi. Best girl deserves only the best sposts... and I'm so glad she's there over Lancelot lol
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u/VanceXentan Aug 02 '25 edited Aug 02 '25
It's Wild people use Hans more than the gong still
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u/aethersentinel Aug 02 '25
Hans is the only bronze support. Plenty of guides still advise playing with four supports, one DPS, one backup DPS.
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u/Quiet_Description_70 Aug 02 '25
Hans is pretty good even without recent buffs. I think he's one of the earliest servants reaching bond 10 in my roster before Castoria's release.
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u/Upbeat-Blood5691 Aug 02 '25
Not surprised about Herc and Arash, they are the backbone to my FGO experience.
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u/Xatu44 Mysterious Shitposter X Aug 02 '25
Chad Gong and Bunyan being the only non-year one options speaks to their usefulness.
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u/ReklesBoi Aug 02 '25
Nitocris.. and my Fluffy Boi Asterios....
seeing these two so high makes me so happy
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u/-_Seth_- Aug 02 '25
Gong is weirdly low. He is the only 2* players with a decently developed roster will ever use.
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u/Metroplex7 Saber Alter is my wife Aug 02 '25
As a player with an 8 year old (NA) roster, I still use George quite a bit in challenge content.
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u/banjo2E Aug 02 '25
gong also wasn't in the game for half its lifespan, and more specifically the half of the lifespan where people weren't relying on low stars as much as they were in the first couple years
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u/Salty-Phase4687 Aug 02 '25
I used to joke about the fact that one day we would have more than triple the amount of SSRs than 3* and below.
Fast forward to now we barely see low star servants anymore.
It would hurt less if the SR and SSR rates were ridiculously low.
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u/armdaggerblade Aug 02 '25
Huh, why is Bedi that much used there? Cu, Robin and Euryale are obvious for their niches and Kiyo is practically the best in that rarity for farming so that's that.
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u/Jakobstj Aug 02 '25
Bedi can hit very hard, and that plus his 30% battery makes him pretty good for non-standard enemy groups, like if it's a 1/1/3 quest he can nuke one of them
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u/Finrod-Knighto Aug 02 '25 edited Aug 03 '25
Popular + good for farming since 90++ nodes + good for his first skill to buff the other attacker + pretty good in tough content too especially to just nuke an HP bar off from the back. It’s a wonder what a battery can do for a hard hitting servant, especially a battery that doesn’t require levels.
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u/Cruzwein Melusine SUPREMACY Aug 02 '25
Thing about asterios and Bunyan is not for their uses mostly....
But for their cost as bond cows, they fit both into beast and costume owned, so bond lvl go up
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u/Daerus Aug 02 '25
You do know that Bunyan is considered A+ farmer by Appmedia because of her usefulness in multicore and fastest NP in the game?
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u/Cruzwein Melusine SUPREMACY Aug 02 '25
That too, sometimes i use her but 90++ require bigger bodies/batteries
Mostly for trash with arash, for Lightspeed farming
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u/leow193 Aug 02 '25
What about 5 Stars ? Castoria I bet ?
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u/SockParticular4936 Aug 02 '25
Yea Im surprised they skipped the 5-star servants. Maybe they will reveal it tomorrow?
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u/Mich-666 Aug 02 '25
I understand other 4* but can OG berserker even farm?
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u/minbrorerentyv Aug 02 '25
He's a handy last man standing just in case and like the best 4* backline seat warmer, and one of the few worth it to get to bond 10 for the bond CE. I figure a lot of people don't really bother to bond 10 servants unless they're favorites (or just really useful) because bond CEs are sadly kind of lackluster and bond 10 doesn't give quartz.
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u/KazeDaze Summer Kuro is home Aug 02 '25
And once you hit bond 10 with him you kind of might as well get to bond 15 for sq KEKW
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u/Mich-666 Aug 02 '25
Oh, I see. I completely forgot about his bond 10 as my last servant is mostly just Mash due to cost heavy teams of 5* I mostly use (or more specifically to farm bond and coins for 5* in backline). And there are so many guts CEs nowadays, not to mention you likely want to use event CEs during events. I still need to get him to lvl10 myself.
Not everyone has his newer alternatives like Super Orion I guess.
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u/Jakobstj Aug 02 '25
He's not useful for farming, no, but he's in there for the same reason Cu is up there among the 3*: He's your last resort for boss fights, so you have him in the back for all fights, and to be best at it he needs his Bond CE so you put him in the back for farming teams too.
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u/Quiet_Description_70 Aug 02 '25
When new & casual players didn't have meta servants and boss killers, we were recommended to use Bond 10 Herc to defeat Goetia.
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u/BBLKing Aug 02 '25
Surprised Izou is not among the most used.
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u/AkiyamaNM7 Eresh is best ☆ Aug 02 '25
Izou is popular, but popular =/= most used.
Izou has some nice damage multipliers (Humanoid & Man Attribute), but his NP is nerfed cause he's a limited 3☆; if you didn't get NP5 whenever he's available, then other 3☆ Assassins can/will out-damage him.
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u/HandsomeHeathen | | Aug 02 '25
Surprised but pleased to see Asterios in the top 5 1-stars.
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u/xemnonsis Aug 02 '25 edited Aug 02 '25
Asterios NP is really good for boss fights, especially if you are a new player who don't want to be carried by Friends with meta units through the story
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u/Caius_fgo Aug 02 '25
I'm kinda surprised that Andersen is still so used in comparison with Gong, Leonidas and Georgius...
And also, I'm flabbergasted by the lack of Xu Fu and Habbycat. What is going on.
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u/Rafellz Aug 02 '25
Bedivere probably has a lot usage even after newbie phase since 30% battery free unit with extremely fast animation. Used him a lot as the 2nd wave single target clearer for lotto myself.
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u/arkhe22 "I proclaim this; Good Civ!" Aug 02 '25
Need to do it by year.
I mostly see are farmers and anchors.
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u/Etoiplex Aug 02 '25
Seeing Lancelot in second place...man, as a Lancelot (Berserker) fan this really makes me hapy
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u/TastyBrainMeats Aug 02 '25
Okay, but Babbage is still my favorite 3 star.
... Even if he ain't that great
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u/Zekus720 Aug 02 '25
Wow? No Ushiwakamaru in the top 5? I use her a lot as a back up unit, she just hits HARD
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u/EVedEevee Aug 02 '25
Can any one explain Asterios to me? What makes them good?
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u/Elfishjuggler33 WE WON LIP FANS Aug 02 '25
Kit wise, they are nothing special, but they are a 1 star unit from the early days of the game + he is likeable in the story. When people want to slot a low rarity servant for bond that they won't use otherwise, he is a good choice
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u/EVedEevee Aug 02 '25
Aw, I was hoping he had a secret use I was missing, because I like them too haha
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u/Windbornes_Word Aug 02 '25
He’s a low cost Berserker. Pretty useful if you have a low number of Servants to choose from because he’s effective at killing almost any class except Foreigners. In later Singularity story missions that can be really helpful, particularly paired with someone like George or Leonidas to offset the drawback of taking increased damage from everyone.
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u/ohoni Aug 02 '25
Really? I never use Bedivere. Mine would probably be Eurale, then Cu, and then "random whoever to fill space."
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u/Johnvro Aug 02 '25
I am not THAT surprised with the 4* top, except Nitocris. Is there a reason why she is 4th most used? I knew she wasn't that much valued thanks to her insta-death, meaning it is really hard to do NP loop.
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u/MajinAkuma Aug 02 '25
I‘m surprised that Nitocris isn’t any higher.
She works very well in teams where looping isn’t required, especially since she can use her NP twice, and her instant death is useful for that.
The Ordeal Call node where you farm tons of QP often favors Nitocris with double Douman because all three can instantly kill the enemies very easily and also have huge batteries.
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u/MidouCloud Aug 02 '25
From this list special mention: 1. Arash mana load to lvl 10 and append skill to start NP at 20. 2. Same for Cheng gong. 3. Grailed lvl 70 Georgios just for how he carried me many times during the first part (Special mention against Goetia) 4. Grailed lvl 80 Hans, I didnt have a high rarity top tier support for many time, so he fill this role very good. Still has a nice spot for difficult battles thank to his low cost. 5. Grailed lvl 100 Robin Hood, he was one of my first grailed sergeants, my nuke dot bosses during a long time. 6. Grailed lvl 100 Cu. 7. No grailed but 10/10/10 skills for Bedievere
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u/XL1reddit Aug 03 '25
i was expecting to chen gong to be the most used 2 star servant but i was surprised to know that hans aka budget merlin has been the most used
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u/AdeptnessOld1281 Aug 03 '25
:0 MY BOI!! MY BIG BEEFY WHITE HAIRED MAZE BOI!! HOW!? I’M HAPPY AND CONFUSED
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u/deathbythighs02 Aug 02 '25
Why is Kiyo so popular? I don't think her kit is that good. Did she get buffed, or is it just because of Gooners?
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u/Battlepwn33 Aug 02 '25
From the looks of things, this is from across the game's whole lifespan, so for players that don't get a Berserker from the starter summon, your next best choices for full coverage are Lu Bu, Darius and Kiyohime. The other two have next to no personality whatsoever (especially at launch), and Kiyohime not only has a main story appearance right away in Orleans, but is given to you at the end of the Singularity, meaning that even if you're unlucky with the Friend Point gacha, she's always an option for new players.
Her kit isn't great, but for a launch servant it's better than a lot of her contemporaries. She does get a new strengthening later on that makes her a bit stronger, but it's nothing game-changing outside of a meme farming comp.
Overall though Kiyohime is just really popular, 3 years ago she was raised to level 120 the most out of every 3-star and below, even beating out Arash.
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u/Misticsan Aug 02 '25
This is me. When I started the game, I was unlucky with universal farmers and mana batteries, so for the longest time I had to make do with Arash, Spartacus and Kiyohime. All three are among the first Servants I reached bond level 10 with and would have contributed to this chart had I been playing JP.
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u/AzurePhoenix001 Aug 02 '25
She is very cute.
And surprisingly she is very sociable making friendships with many other characters like Tamamo, Osakabehime, Elizabeth, Raikou, Serenity, and Beni-Enma
She has potential for stories due to how easy she is able to get along with so many people.
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u/Quiet_Description_70 Aug 02 '25
Early FGO didn't have Waver post-buff. Bringing AoE servants with charge CEs was how most players could farm back then. Kiyo's Buster crits were pretty useful too.
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u/MajinAkuma Aug 02 '25
This is not about popularity. It’s about who was the most used the last ten years.
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u/xemnonsis Aug 02 '25
there are only three permanent 3 star Berserkers (Nagayoshi is limited) and she is easily the best among them with an AOE NP. also she has the most relevant skill set for Burn support post Skill Rank Up (compared to Lu Bu who has never been buffed to this day)
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u/Felstalker Aug 02 '25
Don't let other commenters trick you. Kiyohime is horrible. No hard survival, unupgraded NP, attack buff for the enemy, no battery.
She is slow to get her NP, her NP doesn't hit hard, and she can't survive the turns it requires her to get her NP. You're better off using Eric Bloodaxe or Darius III who both have Guts and NP upgrades.
Kiyohime is also very popular to the gooners. She has a costume AND an Animation update. She has multiple buffs that, while they're not good buffs, show that she is popular. I'll argue that the 3-star's on that list are the most untainted by gameplay and are a solid representation of popularity within FGO.
And to that end, Kiyohime is justifiably popular. I mean, have you seen her competition? it's not just Eric or Darius, Sparcatus is right there with his upgraded NP, Guts, Battery, and lower team cost. The only think Kiyohime has that Spartacus doesn't have, is a costume.
And yes, I would much rather a Spartacus Dakimakura than a Kiyohime one. But I couldn't possibly afford a pillow large enough.
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u/Daerus Aug 02 '25
Maybe don't look at the game from todays' perspective, but first few years which were time when she was most used and which most contributed to her being high. Other posters are perfectly right about that, especially Battlepwn33.
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u/Felstalker Aug 02 '25
Day 1, Darius III was better. Day 2, Spartacus got his buffs. Day 3. and without a update Eric Bloodaxe was still superior.
I like Kiyohime, I've got her grailed and Bond 10 over here. The game doesn't DEMAND I utilize better servants. There is no reason to pretend Kiyohime is mechanically good. She's a popular servant because she's a dragon girl with story presence. Not because she's the best 3 star Berserker in the game. There was never a time in which she had a mechanical advantage over the alternative options. That 3-star used list is more on popularity, it's not weighted down by the hard core farmers like the 1-star list is.
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u/Daerus Aug 03 '25
No one is pretending Kiyohime is good mechanically, did you even read the posts?
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u/DradelLait Aug 02 '25
Huh, why would anyone use Kojiro
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u/Jakobstj Aug 02 '25
Originally because he was the assassin everyone actually had access to and France sure did throw a loooot of Rider-class wyverns at you, later on it's meme power born from that.
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u/Quiet_Description_70 Aug 02 '25
At launch, he was praised as Savior of France by the fandom because the game used to be head over heels in love with fighting wyverns. Later, once in a while the writers including Nasu poke fun at the early game wyverns interrupting the story.
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u/xemnonsis Aug 02 '25 edited Aug 02 '25
dang was not expecting so many people to be using Tamamo Cat of all Servants. also surprised to see Cursed Arm Hassan over Leonidas or Gareth for 2 stars
Edit: also I'm shocked Habetrot isn't in top 5 for 4 stars