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JP News [Chaldea U-Summer Island] Juenesse Crane skills

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u/Radiant-Hope-469 We will never reach 2018 23d ago edited 22d ago

Juenesse Crane [QAAAB] Limited SR Alter Ego

My Adolescent Distance C: Increase Arts Card effectiveness [10%-20%] (3 turns) & apply Debuff Immune (1 time, 3 turns) & Evade (1 time, 3 turns) & increase Critical Resist [20%-30%] (3 turns) for all allies
Cooldown: 8/7/6

Clad in Song, My Thoughts for You B: Increase NP Gauge [20%] & NP Strength [10%-20%] (3 turns) & increase Mental Debuff Success Rate [20%-40%] (3 turns) & apply Special Attack [Mental Debuff] [20%-30%] (3 turns) for all allies
Cooldown: 8/7/6

No Lies to Myself in Summer B: 60% chance to inflict Charm (1 turn) to all enemies + Increase NP Gauge [20%-30%] & NP Strength [20%-30%] (3 turns) for yourself
Cooldown: 8/7/6

NP: Mirage Sword - The Crane's Vacation: Swimsuit Rendezvous with You C+ [Arts]

Increase Arts Card effectiveness [OC: 10%-30%] (3 turns) for yourself + Remove ATK Buffs & inflict Confusion [30% chance to inflict Skill Seal (1 turn) each turn] (3 turns) & deal damage [NP: 450%-750%] to all enemies + Decrease Critical Strength Resist [20%] (3 turns) for all except [Midsummer's Radiance <Child Servant, Summer Alignment, or Summer Mode Servant] enemies

Passives:

  • Item Creation (Cloth) C: Increase Debuff Success Rate [6.5%] for all allies while Jeunesse Crane is on the field
  • Presence Adaptation D: Increase C. Star Drop Rate [20%] & decrease Critical Resist [5%] [Demerit] for yourself
  • Summer Fields Forever B: Restore 500 HP each turn & gain 3 C. Stars each turn & increase NP Gain [10%] for all [Midsummer's Radiance <Child Servant, Summer Alignment, or Summer Mode Servant] allies while Jeunesse Crane is on the field
  • Append 3: Increase ATK against Caster enemies [20%-30%] for yourself

Bond CE: Tide Refrain

Increase Arts Card effectiveness [10%] & apply Special Attack [Mental Debuff] [10%] for all allies while Jeunesse Crane is on the field

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u/xemnonsis 23d ago edited 23d ago

does the various Special Attack bonuses stack multiplicatively or additively? like say for example Lilith gets buffed by Summer Crane and uses her NP with its Special Attack Charm bonus

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u/PM_ME_UR_LOLS 23d ago

There are two types of Special Attack: Powermod (lasts a certain amount of turns, affects everything, additive with itself and crit/NP buffs) and Super-Effective (only affects NP, multiplicative with everything). Crane's is Powermod, while Lilith's is Super-Effective, so they stack multiplicatively.

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u/xemnonsis 23d ago

gotcha, thanks

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u/Fireshottt 23d ago

The damage formula has 3 parts:atk buffs, card type buffs and np damage/crit damage/special attack buffs. Each buff scales additively within each part (i.e.: 10% atk and 20 % atk = 30% atk or 1.3xdamage) and multiplicatively with other parts (i.e.: 10% card type and 20% np damage = 1.1x1.2=1.32xdamage).

Now, some nps (like Lilith's) have a super effective. This is an extra multiplier outside the 3 parts I mentioned before and so it scales multiplicatively with all the other buffs.

In short, summer Crane's special attack buffs would scale additively with np/crit damage buffs but multiplicatively with Lilith's super effective on her np.

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u/Illuminastrid 23d ago

Finally, another 3 turn Arts Up AoE ramper outside of Jason and pre-buff Muramasa. I do understand why they are so stingy with this, unlike NP Strength Up and Buster Up 3 turns-pre NP which just adds up damage, Arts straights up improve the card overall, both facecards and NP as well as its NP gains and refund, therefore its the one trickiest to balance.

We had other variations like Summer Tomoe (Arts/Buster), post-buff Muramasa (All Card Types plus NP Strength Up), and Hokusai (Arts Resist Down pre-NP) but its good to see a more straightforward example this time.

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u/flashmozzg 23d ago

Summer Kama support?

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u/DeathStalker_Synchro 23d ago

My immediate thought. With so many charm servants at 60% chance she can enable 3Ts of charm

Looking forward to S. Kama + S. Medb + S. Crane

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u/XF10 23d ago

There's an error. S2 is listed as cooldown dropping 3 turns with leveling instead of 2

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u/Informal-Recipe 23d ago

SRs with 50% charge huh

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u/fatalystic 23d ago

Correction: third class skill only affects Midsummer's Radiance allies.

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u/Radiant-Hope-469 We will never reach 2018 23d ago

Oh

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u/Red-7134 22d ago

Arts support, anti-[niche] damage gimmick, 50% charge for self. Pretty straightforward. The schtick being charm means she'll either be dead weight in CQs, or part of a stunlocking team, since her utility outside of that is almost entirely on her S1.

For farming itself, she'd make a decent multicore unit. Especially as an Alter Ego.

But, yeah. Debuff based kits are always a bit stage dependent for story fights, and shake in reliability for farming. Luckily she has some support to make up for that.

The extremely specific debuff on her NP is funny though. Enemies take more crit damage, but only if the enemy isn't a minor or in a swimsuit.

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u/anal-yst 23d ago

Huh. So she’s a mid 4* AOE Damage Dealer with the potential to be a really good multicore enabler for very specific set-ups.

Honestly, I really like this design philosophy. She does a bit of everything but nothing too incredibly well EXCEPT for weird teams that really like what she can bring.

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u/kerorobot 23d ago

Just realize she have super effective against caster. Guess she hates her adult self like shirou lol

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u/KyteM u wot m8 22d ago

Note that "ATK buff" is more like "offensive buff", it covers any kind of enhancement to attacks, including sure-hit, pierce invincible, ignore def, crit rate, crit damage, color, special damage, multihit, class affinity change, etc.

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u/Trascendent_Enforcer 23d ago

AOE 1 hit evade + 1 time debuff immune? Thats some crazy utility, she joining the David Sith Tristan club. She was already my #1 priority roll bc of how much i loved the idol event but this settled it.