Yeah I have a 2018 Silverado crew cab and it makes a early 2000s Silverado almost look like a mid size. And then getting into a HD truck is even worse lol
And US carmakers are wondering why their cars don’t sell in Japan
I mean first of all, the pickup truck in question is Japanese.
Second, US carmakers are well aware of the situation and don't even try to sell most of their cars in Japan as a result. There's no confusion or wondering going on.
Edit: good lord you downvoters are truly fucking brain dead.
Right that's basically what I'm saying. All these big trucks, they're not sold in Japan because they're not meant to be sold in Japan.
Like, nobody in the automotive industry is confused about why the Japanese market isn't into giant trucks while the US market is. They're different cultures and so you market different products to them.
The US automakers could if they wanted to, invest into building cars tailored to the Japanese market... But they've clearly done the math and decided other markets are more fruitful and their connection to the Japanese market is mostly via mergers and partnerships.
You're talking about very, very different things here.
Yes, politically, things are messy in the US right now, putting it generously.
But that's quite different from whether US car companies know why they don't sell their US models in Japan.... This is something they've known and understood for much longer than the current political chaos.
Are you genuinely that dense? That because, here in the GT subreddit in a conversation about GT... I didn't go right into a rant about all the scary fascist shit happening under Trump.... that means I'm not aware of it? Not worried and terrified by it?
You're clearly a fucking moron if you believe US car makers are "confused" as to why they voluntarily don't sell many models in Japan.
The rest of the world is just behind culturally, per usual. I’ll let you know what music will be big in your country 10 years from now if you ask nicely
the irony is that's becoming true. The US was on the SUV train for like 10 years now the rest of the world (Europe) is becoming just like the US. SUVs everywhere
This is wrong, crew cabs have always been this big…
The only thing that has changed is that more trucks are crew cabs than previously. It’s cheaper to have one vehicle that can do car and truck things than to have a separate car and truck
You are absolutely deluded if you think trucks have always been this tall, heavy, fast, AND unsafe for the cars and pedestrians around them. Oh and just for good measure they also threw in retina searing death rays that are too high off the ground, just in case they weren't dangerous enough to begin with.
Please stop posting your nonsense on the internet.
I literally attached a photo. The only one deluded here is you.
The 1979 Ford F-series crew cab is 10in shorter in length, 3 inches shorter in height, and the same width. Those are dimensions that literally make zero difference. They are practically the same size. The 79 has a hood at a much more shallow angle which makes it harder to see despite the slightly smaller size.
On the other hand, the modern one has significantly more QoL features, is much MUCH more efficient, comfortable, AND SAFE. For the driver, for other cars, and for pedestrians!
Sure dude... cool story, even though it's completely false:
"Overall, light trucks pose a significant hazard to other users of the highway system but on average provide no additional protection to their own occupants." NIH.GOV
None of your sources disagree with me.. did you even read them?
Your sources say trucks and heavy vehicles kill more people than cars. This entire debate has had nothing to do with that fact nor did I ever deny it…
All I said was that crew cab trucks have remained approx the same size (because people are arguing that theyve gotten bigger),the only difference is that there are more crew cabs sold than there used to be. IN FACT, ALL OF YOUR SOURCES AGREE WITH THAT.
Cool story... doesn't change the fact that you use an inefficient pedestrian killing behemoth as a mall crawler lmao. It's okay to say you don't know how to spend your money, you're not the first American with that mindset.
I've actually just bought my first home and even I know there are more versatile options than these emotional support trucks for hauling bulk material. Like, oh I don't know, a trailer?
That way I can buy a car that fits my everyday needs better than something that is only useful for my occasional needs or if I really need to run over children while being completely unaware.
This kind of thinking is why fascism is still alive and well in the world. I don’t mean you in particular, but this whole thread full of people getting incited by the vehicle choices of people they will never meet. They have no clue as to the reasons people think and live differently than they do, and they don’t care. “If you’re different, then you’re wrong.”
I don't think you're wrong because you have a different opinion to me, I think you're wrong because these cars are unnecessary and dangerous in so many ways. I'd wager that most of the people getting incited in this thread hold this opinion due to one or several of my following arguments.
I will preface the following with the fact that I live in Australia. We have seen a recent influx of "yank tanks" to our country being bought up by rich knobs who think these cars make them big dog. Anyway, onto the actual points:
They're unnecessarily large. They don't fit well on our roads, they don't fit in our carparks, they don't fit in our home garages. We don't have the infrastructure to accommodate road cars being this big. And there's really no reason for them to be this big, many utes in Australia are much smaller with the same or larger bed sizes.
They're worse for the environment. The latest base model Chevy Silverado has a fuel consumption of 12.2 litres/100km. Whereas a moderate SUV like a Mazda CX-5 has 7.2 litres/100km.
They're heavy as fuck. The extra unnecessary weight of these vehicles does more damage to roads over time and means we'll all end up paying more in registration to maintain our roads. Big trucks like semi-trailers and B-doubles pay extra to help negate the extra wear they put on roads, but these things pay the same as any old Holden Commodore.
They're much more likely to kill others in a crash. The fucking stupid design choice to make a huge car with a big flat front means that if you hit a pedestrian, cyclist or motorcyclist, you impart more energy to their centre of mass, and they're more likely to be dragged under the car than to be thrown over the bonnet. In car vs car collisions, you're also imparting a shitload more force because of all the aforementioned unnecessary mass.
They only exist because American manufacturers could take advantage of loopholes in emissions laws by making their cars larger and heavier. It's simply corporate greed and the American people ate it up until it spread to the worldwide market.
I hate these cars (and the upward trend in the size of cars in general) because I care about others enough to make choices in my lifestyle to be better. Better for the environment, better for society and more compassionate toward others' comfort and safety. These cars are the antithesis of those values.
Here are some videos that shaped my point of view.
Because they have shifted the paradigm. Trucks were meant to be work vehicles, for hauling bigger stuff. Now they have commodified them into luxurious vehicles, while also unnecessarily increasing their size. If you need a family vehicle get a mini van. But don't pretend that a truck as a family car makes sense.
Europe still has wagons, but if you want the extra storage space in the US you either get a crossover or an SUV.
Who are you to tell me what is the right vehicle for my family? Do you pretend to know anything about my or my family’s needs, or why I prefer my truck over other kinds of vehicles? No, you just hate anything that you don’t understand. Racism, sexism, ageism, have this same kind of thinking at their core: if someone thinks differently than I do, than they’re wrong and must be stopped.
Why do you view an SUV differently? It’s literally just a pickup truck with a closed-in bed. It’s just your perception and attitude. I’m just glad I live in a country where people like you can’t control other people’s lives.
I somehow knew you were going to take this personally lmao.
I'm not talking about your particular case, if you use it for work purposes and family stuff, more power to you, but the argument that it's a great family vehicle is just nonsensical, when there are definitely vehicles designed with that purpose.
And no, I can't control people's lives in this country, corporations do. And that's why they have sold you the idea that a big massive truck is what you need to be a "big manly man", while simultaneously putting everyone else in danger, damaging roads more and burning more fuel than necessary. That goes for large SUVs as well.
I was parked at a boat ramp the other day and saw a small old Toyota pickup sitting next to a newer Ram. The difference was shocking. I'm over 6ft tall and I'm pretty sure I'd need a step ladder to see the engine with the hood open.
What happened to the little work truck? The Tacoma or S10 or Ranger? They were all the perfect size. The Tacoma I had back in the day cost me 15k new-ish and went for 400k miles. We need more vehicles like that in the states.
P.S. the new Tacoma is not much smaller than that Tundra. And, that is dumb AF!
You are coping bro, I’d rather you hang your hat on the argument of Americans just like abnormally large trucks because they can than try to make them sound practical. Most trucks, cabs, and SUVs aren’t used to their full potential it’s been proven. Minivans are the most practical.
One time I was working on an apartment building and they brought a crew in from Europe to build the car elevator in the parking garage and the guys who built it told me they haven't seen a single car on our roads that's small enough to use it.
That's the american market for you. There's a tendency for people to feel "safer" in bigger cars, and now we have these unnecessarily massive trucks and SUVs on the road, while simultaneously increasing pedestrian death rates. Isn't that lovely?
*American-sized pickup trucks. There aren't many other places in the world where they're sized like RAM 2500s or F250s and Tundras.
Thailand and Australia is pickup truck central and Thai people haul a lot more than what the bed can handle, and especially a lot more than what the average American pickup owner would. They drive Isuzu D-Maxes, Ford Rangers... the light ones.
We should get more trucks and more off road events, Hilux, Ford Ranger, Nissan Navara, RAM trucks, Volkswagen trucks like the Amarok and old off 4x4 suvs like the Prado, Bronco, Patrol, Land Crusier etc...
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