r/granturismo • u/odd_blues • May 21 '25

GT Photo/Video Pick up trucks are really big

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Trucks aren't supposed to be used in city...

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u/SortOfKnow May 21 '25

American trucks are truly very big, especially considering 80-85% never do what is intended and only grab a gallon of milk from the store.

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u/AlarmedRange7258 May 21 '25

It doesn't have to haul campers. The Tundra is one of the best family vehicles out there. Seats 5 very comfortably with incredible storage capacity.

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u/_Vaparetia May 21 '25

A Sienna does the same thing but seats 8

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u/FaZe_Burga May 21 '25

You're gonna scare him away with even the sheer thought of a man driving a minivan.

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u/AlarmedRange7258 May 21 '25

I guess it would blow your mind to learn my other vehicle is a minivan...stay mad

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u/FaZe_Burga May 22 '25

Cool story... doesn't change the fact that you use an inefficient pedestrian killing behemoth as a mall crawler lmao. It's okay to say you don't know how to spend your money, you're not the first American with that mindset.

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u/AlarmedRange7258 May 21 '25

There aren't 8 in my household. There are 5...

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u/ComfortableBus7184 May 21 '25

Yeah but you're not putting a yard of mulch in the Sienna

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u/The_Frankanator May 21 '25

Neither are most of the people who buy those kinds of trucks.

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u/DontLookAtUsernames May 21 '25

They cosplay as people who put a yard of mulch in their truck.

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u/AlarmedRange7258 May 21 '25

You really think that most people that buy trucks don't haul mulch? Really? I can tell you're not a homeowner.

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u/The_Frankanator May 22 '25

I've actually just bought my first home and even I know there are more versatile options than these emotional support trucks for hauling bulk material. Like, oh I don't know, a trailer?

That way I can buy a car that fits my everyday needs better than something that is only useful for my occasional needs or if I really need to run over children while being completely unaware.

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u/AlarmedRange7258 May 22 '25

This kind of thinking is why fascism is still alive and well in the world. I don’t mean you in particular, but this whole thread full of people getting incited by the vehicle choices of people they will never meet. They have no clue as to the reasons people think and live differently than they do, and they don’t care. “If you’re different, then you’re wrong.”

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u/The_Frankanator May 22 '25

I don't think you're wrong because you have a different opinion to me, I think you're wrong because these cars are unnecessary and dangerous in so many ways. I'd wager that most of the people getting incited in this thread hold this opinion due to one or several of my following arguments.

I will preface the following with the fact that I live in Australia. We have seen a recent influx of "yank tanks" to our country being bought up by rich knobs who think these cars make them big dog. Anyway, onto the actual points:

  1. They're unnecessarily large. They don't fit well on our roads, they don't fit in our carparks, they don't fit in our home garages. We don't have the infrastructure to accommodate road cars being this big. And there's really no reason for them to be this big, many utes in Australia are much smaller with the same or larger bed sizes.

  2. They're worse for the environment. The latest base model Chevy Silverado has a fuel consumption of 12.2 litres/100km. Whereas a moderate SUV like a Mazda CX-5 has 7.2 litres/100km.

  3. They're heavy as fuck. The extra unnecessary weight of these vehicles does more damage to roads over time and means we'll all end up paying more in registration to maintain our roads. Big trucks like semi-trailers and B-doubles pay extra to help negate the extra wear they put on roads, but these things pay the same as any old Holden Commodore.

  4. They're much more likely to kill others in a crash. The fucking stupid design choice to make a huge car with a big flat front means that if you hit a pedestrian, cyclist or motorcyclist, you impart more energy to their centre of mass, and they're more likely to be dragged under the car than to be thrown over the bonnet. In car vs car collisions, you're also imparting a shitload more force because of all the aforementioned unnecessary mass.

They only exist because American manufacturers could take advantage of loopholes in emissions laws by making their cars larger and heavier. It's simply corporate greed and the American people ate it up until it spread to the worldwide market.

I hate these cars (and the upward trend in the size of cars in general) because I care about others enough to make choices in my lifestyle to be better. Better for the environment, better for society and more compassionate toward others' comfort and safety. These cars are the antithesis of those values.

Here are some videos that shaped my point of view.

https://youtu.be/jN7mSXMruEo?si=8wQBlg-z44oputpr

https://youtu.be/YpuX-5E7xoU?si=SPr-MZrT1LPZtmLU

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u/SortOfKnow May 21 '25

Yeah but U-Haul rents trailers for 10 dollars and the sienna when equipped with a hitch can easy carry that yard

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u/SkyJohn May 21 '25

Anywhere that sells mulch will do home deliveries.

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u/foxden_racing TheAmishStig May 21 '25

And there are also these magic devices called "tarps". Take the seats out of the van, lay a tarp on the floor, and haul mulch to your heart's content.

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u/Kekistani_MemeLord May 21 '25

literally exactly what we did a week ago with the odyssey. works wonderfully

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u/Bolkohir May 22 '25

Because they have shifted the paradigm. Trucks were meant to be work vehicles, for hauling bigger stuff. Now they have commodified them into luxurious vehicles, while also unnecessarily increasing their size. If you need a family vehicle get a mini van. But don't pretend that a truck as a family car makes sense.

Europe still has wagons, but if you want the extra storage space in the US you either get a crossover or an SUV.

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u/AlarmedRange7258 May 22 '25

Who are you to tell me what is the right vehicle for my family? Do you pretend to know anything about my or my family’s needs, or why I prefer my truck over other kinds of vehicles? No, you just hate anything that you don’t understand. Racism, sexism, ageism, have this same kind of thinking at their core: if someone thinks differently than I do, than they’re wrong and must be stopped.

Why do you view an SUV differently? It’s literally just a pickup truck with a closed-in bed. It’s just your perception and attitude. I’m just glad I live in a country where people like you can’t control other people’s lives.

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u/Bolkohir May 22 '25

I somehow knew you were going to take this personally lmao.

I'm not talking about your particular case, if you use it for work purposes and family stuff, more power to you, but the argument that it's a great family vehicle is just nonsensical, when there are definitely vehicles designed with that purpose.

And no, I can't control people's lives in this country, corporations do. And that's why they have sold you the idea that a big massive truck is what you need to be a "big manly man", while simultaneously putting everyone else in danger, damaging roads more and burning more fuel than necessary. That goes for large SUVs as well.

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u/The_Frankanator May 23 '25

I like the phrase, "the right to swing your fist ends where my face begins"

These knobs are out here swinging their 3 ton fists about getting pissy at us when we say, that's not necessary because, "mah freedums"

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u/AlarmedRange7258 May 22 '25

“If you need a family vehicle get a mini van. But don't pretend that a truck as a family car makes sense.”

But I’m the one who made it personal. This is getting funny.