r/homeassistant • u/frenck_nl Home Assistant Lead @ OHF • 18d ago

Release 2025.8: The summer of AI ☀️

https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2025/08/06/release-20258/
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u/NomadicSun 18d ago

I don’t get the hate for AI. Being able to get rid of google/alexa devices and self host all that functionality is a huge upgrade for me. I love to see continuing improvements and functionality to that

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u/calinet6 18d ago edited 18d ago

I think hate toward LLM tech in general is understandable: it’s a problematic tech, vastly over-hyped, consumes way too many resources, is extremely misleading unless you genuinely understand the underlying tech, and the people who tend to idolize it are (to put it kindly) problematic.

However, all that said… if there’s one use case that LLMs are for, it’s to be the Star Trek Computer interface. That’s the one. That’s what they’re for. They’re language models and pattern matchers, this is what they’re good at.

And that’s what Home Assistant is getting close to here, and I think it’s very promising.

Anyway I don’t think we should be confused when people see problems with  LLM technologies: they are problematic. The best directions will come from acknowledging the complex reality, not trying to use them for everything, and applying them to use cases they’re good for (like this one).

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u/trialbaloon 18d ago

To be honest. I always found the star trek computer interface to be a bad UI haha. It's more of a gimmick that translates well to acting/on screen performance and communicating what is happening to the audience. It's slower than typing/good datavis. Though I am also not a super socially driven person so speaking is just not an efficient way for my brain to receive or output information.

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u/ElectroSpore 18d ago

Well technically the holodeck is the ultimate example of VIBE coding, where you ask it a to do generalized things and it comes up with something fairly close that you then need to iterate on.

Complete with vibe coding bugs like Moriarty when it doesn't understand you or you accidently jailbreak the safety system with your request

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u/trialbaloon 18d ago

Cant say I'd thought of this but it's interesting. The holodeck should probably be removed from starfleet given all the issues it seems to cause across the federation fleet. Somehow Quark runs a tight ship with DS9's holosuite. Very few issues on DS9...

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u/ElectroSpore 18d ago

I would say 99% of the issues are just caused by the senior staff running commands as admin instead of as a regular user.