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u/FalconStickr 14d ago
āHe is currently trying to drive away but we are currently beating the ever living shit out of his car with a bat so he is unable.ā
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u/BugEyedBigSky 14d ago
Incredible. Apparently this dude stole a piece of mail from the cameraman and it was a suicide letter from his friend; heāll never know what was said in the letter because of this absolute piece of shit. Glad his jeep got wrecked.
āIt's not just stolen packages, money or identities; Brehmer also had something more personal stolen -- a letter to him written by a friend who took his own life.
"When I found out he stole something I could never get back, answers I'll never have, reasons why my friend ended up killing himself, I lost every bit of composure I had," he said.ā
https://abc7.com/amp/post/suspected-mail-thief-arrested-confronted-studio-city-neighbors/17473657/
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u/Rattle_Bone 14d ago
Valid crash out
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u/TheEugenicist 9d ago
That should be followed up by a public dangling for the cone. Let him write a letter... you know what to do with that.
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u/Fat_Mullet 14d ago
Curious as to how he knew his mate sent him a suicide letter, like did he send someone else one and mentioned it or did he say like hey bro im gonna kill myself and I've sent a letter explaining why then killed himself or...like how does one know they have a suicide note on the way after the fact? Not denying it by all means, just curious
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u/BugEyedBigSky 14d ago
I was curious about this too! I imagine maybe other friends/people in this personās life received a letter - and he presumably was close enough to them to assume he would have also received one.
Or informed delivery from USPS as others have mentioned.
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u/jakmcbane77 14d ago
There is something you can sign up for where you get pictures of the mail being delivered to you that day. He could have that and seen a letter from his friend who recently killed himself. Its not a stretch to think maybe the friend had never sent an actual letter before, now there is a letter and he killed himself, probably something of a suicide note.
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u/AdMurky1021 13d ago
USPS Informed Delivery if anyone is curious.
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u/Hour_Ferret5195 13d ago
Yup. I only go to my mail box like once a month now, only once I see something interesting come through.
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u/tallbrowngirl94 13d ago
Everyone sign up for this free service. My husband took a piece of important mail that was a tax document out our box and because of this service I knew the exact date it was received by USPS. He swore he never had it. Turns out he put it somewhere in his car, fell out and sat in our driveway in the rain for a few days. It was great to know I didnāt miss it!
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u/CL0UDY_BIGTINY 13d ago
My guesses are informed delivery or maybe someone else who had the letter was sending the letter to them so they could see it them self or have it
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u/BreiteSeite 14d ago
God damn it. A friend commiting suicide is tragic already, but loosing his last words in a suicide note? it's like a 2x booster for the trauma. :( :(
Am a bit curious how he knew the dead friend wrote in the first place though.
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u/SonoranLiving 14d ago
Could have been left when the friend did it and addressed it to him and the police notified him and were sending it to him after the investigation was done.
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u/warmplc4me 14d ago
Well the article does not state that he would never get it back. He may have had the advanced notice that the letter was coming. "Stole something I could never get back" may mean that he took matters into his own hands to retrieve the item before he got away, that's how much it meant to him. Maybe I am missing something.
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u/BugEyedBigSky 14d ago
I hope he is able to get the letter. :( āAnswers Iāll never haveā makes me think it might be gone forever, though.
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u/excellent_rektangle 14d ago
My caveman brain heard window smashing but didnāt get to see it. Krug sad nowā¦
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u/byyhmz 14d ago
camera guy was doing his neighbour a solid by not recording that imo.
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u/excellent_rektangle 14d ago
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u/yaboyACbreezy 14d ago
Yep could have been anything breaking. Could have been anyone. Literally nothing to prove how it got broken. A human traffic cone could have tripped on his stolen mail and bumped his head on the glass for all we know. Or it happened some other way and the theif is playing victim. We just don't know. Evidence is inconclusive.
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u/bartthetr0ll 14d ago
Towards the end I think it was tire slashing sounds, somebody said something along the lines of give me the knife and it was like a pop and a hiss sound, plus that would make more sense then buggering up windows to keep him from driving off. I'd imagine a whole duffel bag full of mail is some serious prison time, even just taking 1 piece of mail is federal
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u/Yah_Mule 14d ago
Shattered windows are a service we offer free of charge with every tire deflation.
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u/SadBit8663 14d ago
Yeah one piece of mail is a full blown federal felony. Like bro is going away if he's stealing mail
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u/Ouija-1973 14d ago
As much as I'd love for this to be true, it's extremely unlikely. It'll get pled down and he'll most likely get a slap on the wrist. Maybe some county jail time. But unless he's on parole or something like that, prison isn't likely.
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u/janbradybutacat 14d ago
He was booked for assault with a deadly weapon and has a rap sheet so I expect he will get time.
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u/Chowdaire 13d ago
somebody said something along the lines of give me the knife
I think that's the AI interpreter mishearing "leave me alone" and giving us "give me the knife". Listen again with that in mind and you'll hear it.
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u/CatticusXIII 14d ago edited 13d ago
I hope you can find some solace in this gif.
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u/Edna-Tailovette 14d ago
He didnāt answer the question of ādid he like to steal mailā?
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u/knockout350 14d ago
no he said "yeah" right before getting pepper sprayed
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u/CL0UDY_BIGTINY 13d ago
We should have a follow up interview and ask him again see if he changed his mind hahaha
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u/KR157Y4N 14d ago
Not anymore š
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u/ADHDebackle 13d ago
No he still likes to steal mail, he just doesn't like to get caught stealing mail.
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u/lizards_snails_etc 14d ago
"Oh, totally! You could say it's a passion of mine. Why do you ask?"
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u/SlitheringFlower 14d ago
I mean come on, at least give him a 2 minute headstart. He's already wearing a stealth debuff. /s
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u/GeneralChaos-BFG 14d ago
Once saw a entire team in a PUBG lobby wearing all bright orange and thought there's a reason hunters wear that in order not be shot accidentally.. we shot them from a moving car later in the game as they were so easy to spot.. good old times
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u/brandontaylor1 14d ago
Guys facing multiple felonies for stealing the useless shit I have to throw away every day. I hope those HelloFresh promos are worth it.
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u/WhoCaresBoutSpellin 14d ago
Judge: Sir do you plead guilty or not guilty?
Traffic Cone Robber: Iād like to plead that my girlfriend is one of the few.
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u/hawaii-visitor 14d ago
He could have got
license plates, wedding gifts, tax returns
Checks to politicians from real estate firms
Money, bills, and canceled checks
Or pretty funny pictures of your kids
On a Friday night!
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u/Brvcx 13d ago
In the comments under this video I read the neighbour lost a suicide letter from a friend who recently killed himself (apparently he knew he was getting that letter due to recieving photos of the expacted mail, which isn't uncommon, so I'm told) due to this guy stealing and destroying mail.
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u/Ultraknight40000 14d ago
I work in retail loss prevention. I see this behavior all the time. People will insult you, threaten you, and show no remorse for what they are doing.
But the moment they face actual consequences, then it's all apologies and sob stories.
This guy isn't sorry for stealing he's sorry he got caught.
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u/mnmsaregood3 13d ago
Same here and itās every time. They almost ALWAYS offer to pay for it once they get caught. Why didnāt you do that in the first place?
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u/kwolf4343 14d ago
Palm, palm, tiger
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u/alleged_misconduct 14d ago
-Did you say P or B?
--P like Palm. Palm Palm Tiger.
-So B like Balm? Balm Balm Tiger.
--Yes. Wait, are you saying Palm or Balm?
-What?Yeah, no chance of confusion there
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u/RaechelMaelstrom 14d ago
And this is why everyone should learn the NATO phonetic alphabet.
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u/chucklestime 14d ago
That annoyed me. āPalmā isnāt the whole idea to use two syllable words for clarity
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u/RoncoSnackWeasel 14d ago
Iād be goddamned if I could remember the phonetic alphabet after deeming a previous situation necessary to mace someone. I didnāt just mace a dude dressed in dayglow pumpkin, and I still canāt bring to mind what āPā is. Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrotā¦ nope. Without looking it up I have no clue what P is in the phonetic alphabet.
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u/CharlesDickensABox 14d ago
It's "papa", but I frequently forget and use "piano". I think both work, though.
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u/RoncoSnackWeasel 14d ago
Closest I could get in the 32 and a half seconds I was prepared to dedicate to this internal dilemma was āpiano,ā knowing it wasnāt right.
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u/TheWWESupercardGuy 14d ago
It doesn't need to be that though. Parrot is fine too if you can't remember Papa. Palm is just useless
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u/JamzWhilmm 14d ago
I hope he is forever shaken by this. If the neighbors wanted they could have really mess him up.
But likely he will be stealing in a few weeks. While I do believe people change, they do it very slowly and painfully.
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u/shrug_addict 14d ago
Postal inspectors don't fuck around, serious charges
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u/Scubby_Dooks 14d ago
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u/bordain_de_putel 14d ago
What the fuck is that ratio? Why would you link to that unwatchable garbage when a proper video is available from the show's channel?
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u/ListlessLink 14d ago
This comes up every time in reddit threads, but in all my years, they never did shit with mail related theft or damage
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u/FreneticPlatypus 14d ago
Someone may steal something opportunistically, like picking up money from the ground and not turning it in but people that make a plan or go out of their way or steal from specific, known individuals I donāt imagine will change their ways without considerable impetus.
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u/Pathetic_Cards 14d ago
I mean, mail tampering is a felony as far as I know, if anyone called the cops that dude is fucked.
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u/Digitakt_Guy 14d ago
It's a big news story. Guy is fucked indeed. Southern California.
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u/johnnyss1 14d ago
Iāve had thousands of dollars in checks stolenāmost recently last month a check for over 10 and friggin chase cashed itā a business check made out to a company was endorsed with a personal signature in pen and the bank cashed it-took 6 weeks to get it back from the fraud dept. this is a huge problem right now
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u/FloppY_ 14d ago
Blows my mind that Americans still use checks. And mails them none the less.
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u/sHoRtBuSseR 14d ago
As someone who has been a victim of mail theft repeatedly, even with locking boxes and multiple police reports, I am borderline aroused.
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u/Leviathon713 13d ago
Borderline? Thatās why you keep being the victim. You gotta get off and get out. š
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u/CrashVandaL 14d ago
He definitely deserved it.
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u/TheRemedy187 14d ago
Yeah I won't lie, it was satisfying how they handled him lol. They might catch some shit legally tho. Actually hope not but sounded like they were smashing the car up.Ā
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u/CriticalSpeech 14d ago
Thatās not what I heard. The neighbors across the street are having some demo work done on their house and that was just the workers dropping out some old windows.
Coincidentally, the man who is stealing mail was too blinded by the pepper spray to drive well. I heard he ran into a couple things when he was fleeing the scene
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u/sterling_mallory 14d ago
Also that wasn't pepper spray it was water. Guy filming just wanted him to stay hydrated.
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u/Northbound-Narwhal 14d ago
Oh, that's 100% illegal, but damn is it satisfying
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u/Jonestown_Juice 14d ago
Depends on the state. It's legal to detain someone for a citizen's arrest in California (which is where I assume they are since they said Studio City). Using the pepper spray probably wasn't since it wasn't used defensively.
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u/MisterSlosh 14d ago
Preventing the criminal from fleeing is covered in a citizens arrest which would be considered in blinding them, but then if they 'escape' while blind the citizen could probably be held liable for any injury or damages.
California has wild laws different than most of the rest of the country so a judgment on this would be interesting if they even got the citizens involved in the case.
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u/Northbound-Narwhal 14d ago
That's true, but legal detention in California requires use of minimum force to detain the person and immediate delivery to the police if possible. Hitting him while he's begging them to stop on film might get them false imprisonment charges.
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u/fafarex 14d ago
Hitting him while he's begging them to stop on film might get them false imprisonment charges.
not if he was hitting back and that they word against his since the camera didn't catch most of it.
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u/Northbound-Narwhal 14d ago
I guess, but it's whatever the DA is willing to risk
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u/YourOldCellphone 14d ago
Nah my buddy was there and said it was just the wind. Nothing related to the car.
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u/JessRoyall 14d ago
He wonāt stop this. I have a friend from my early life that made this his game. Stealing mail. Cleaning checks. Selling items. He has been arrested for it twice now. Changes the scheme and back at it. Third arrest he was using high school age girls to go to the mailbox. He made that work for almost 5 years before they caught him again. Donāt worry, he is still in jail. 3 strikes.
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u/YouGotTheWrongGuy_9 13d ago
I don't understand how this is profitable?? How does this work?
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u/JessRoyall 13d ago
Mostly stolen checks. He can change the payee to someone else. He gives the check to that person to cash the each person keeps some of the money. Itās felony fraud, felony mail fraud, felony theft, and trespassing charges all wrapped up into one fun bundle of crime. He also steals lots of items that get sent by mail. Jewelry, gift cards, cash, etc. people send all kinds of valuable things via mail.
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u/buckets-of-lead 14d ago
The chaos happening in the background while dude is on the phone is hilarious. Glass breaking, people screaming "get the bat", and he's just calm talking about the theft.
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u/luna288hou 14d ago
Lol, that look at 2:17 is my kids when I catch them in the pantry at 2:00 AM. Or the face I make when I pass gas and it's louder than I expected.
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u/RanchDresn 14d ago
The guy nonchalantly walking off to call the police after initiating an spicy eyed asswhoopin is hilarious.
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u/ElbowDroppedLasagne 14d ago
Wait, do we know it's his Jeep? He was initially trying to leave on a scooter. I think he just jumped inside that car to escape his whoopin
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u/Corkie1324 14d ago
what is that outfit? it has to be reverse psychology.
there's no way he could be a thief if he's wearing all orange right?
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u/BluntsnBoards 14d ago
As much as I love this, 99% of people should never try it. It's not worth catching a knife over mail. (And possible legal charges).
Also take a picture of the VIN through the windshield on the driver side, it's better than the plate.
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u/new_phone_who_dis22 14d ago
āHeās trying to drive away but heās facing stuff.āššššš A beat down is what heās facing
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u/TheSkylined 14d ago
When the neighbor picked up the camera while calmly talking to 911 and hearing the thief getting his ass kicked in the background was gold.
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u/unknownpoltroon 14d ago
Missed a great chance to empty the pepperspray into their car. That shit gets everywhere.
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u/-CynicRoot- 14d ago
Stealing mail is a federal crime. Hope whatever he took was worth the years in federal prison.
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u/PugsterThePug 14d ago
Absolutely love to see it. Accountability is becoming less and less common. People need to dish out accountability themselves if authorities wonāt.
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u/Chrift 14d ago
Why would he be stealing mail? Like, packages, or letters?
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u/Taddles2020 14d ago
A surprising number of people mail cash, but my guess is he is looking for credit cards, debit cards, credit card applications, etc.
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u/hauttdawg13 14d ago
Not just applications. Itās actually a pretty common fraud trend (worked the last 10 years in debit card fraud and Account takeover).
One thing we do see is fraudsters will request replacement cards (not super hard to pass those prompts with general info you can find on Facebook) and have them shipped to the house. They will then sit on the house and wait for the mail to be delivered then grab the new card out of the mailbox.
They mostly know we monitor heavily for cards being sent elsewhere, once we blocked that, many have resorted to the scheme above.
While I doubt that the person above is doing that, we get about 40-50 attempts per day total, with about 5 successfully ordered per day. Based on our size of my bank, Iād assume for the total US this happens around 100 times per day.
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u/Magikarp_King 14d ago
Trying to get Amazon stuff, stealing credit card and bank info, use it to steal identities.
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u/LayneCobain95 13d ago
I have new neighbors at my apartment where Iām like āwhy do you even pay rentā because they are always ALWAYS outside. On the stairs or sidewalk.
Right when they moved in, I had a huge package stolen for the first time.
Also ordered food. Went to the door the second it said ādeliveredā. And the dad was standing there holding his door open while his son reached down for my food.
I start yelling to myself whenever I see them, when I get inside now and I think they are scared of me. One time they walked out their door and instantly started hitting their door to be let back inside when they saw me lol. I know for SURE they are the thieves
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u/RedLight_King 12d ago
Stealing mail is a postal offense. The post office has their own federal cops & they donāt screw around with violating the postal codes/laws. This guy thought he had it bad with a couple of dudes wanting their mail.
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u/---N0MAD--- 14d ago
Beautiful, beautiful consequences. Lifeās greatest teacher. This is what needs to happen to every single thief every single time they attempt to steal.
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u/turtle7113 14d ago
Is all that glass breaking one of the neighbors beating this thief's truck with a bat?
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u/jlindley1991 13d ago
Messing with the mail can also be considered a federal crime since the USPS is a federal entity. When it came to the prospect of the mail, the founders of the U.S. didn't want to have to deal with the headache of trying to deal with multiple different mail systems from state to state so decided to simplify it into one system that covered the (at the time) U.S.
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u/talktomoshe 13d ago
So while I love the concept of this, I would always be paranoid that this guy would come back and shoot me a week later.
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u/Oldschool_Daddy66 11d ago
The guy with the pepper spray got stabbed but it was minor. They got the thief later after he switched from his Jeep to a scooter and got away from the scene. Dude actually held up a mailman earlier and stole a master key to the boxes .
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u/zeeper25 14d ago
He does, in fact, like to steal mail.
He does not, however, like to get caught stealing mail.
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u/fernskii 14d ago
lol a bedazzled license plate cover. Whoeverās jeep that is is gonna be pissed when itās impounded.
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u/34TH_ST_BROADWAY 14d ago
Wonder where he was stealing mail from at that time of day? Do some people get their mail at 5am in LA?
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u/kosmonavt-alyosha 14d ago
Take any Oscar winning actor you can imagine, the absolute best ever, and they couldnāt show the look of astonished surprise on this dudeās face.
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u/evinc 14d ago
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