r/judo • u/flyingturkeycouchie • Jul 16 '23
Judo x MMA Another injury from failure to ukemi
https://sports.yahoo.com/ufc-strawweight-istela-nunes-suffers-gruesome-elbow-injury-at-fight-night-035932203.html18
u/KneeBarbarian ikkyu Jul 16 '23
The commentators who are obviously very well skilled MMA fighters/wrestlers but clueless in Judo were saying how "That takedown was intended to break the arm like that, no one spins on a single leg takedown." made me want to kick through my TV. The gal taking her down did nothing wrong.
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u/flyingturkeycouchie Jul 17 '23
I didn't hear that, but I agree. DC is an Olympic wrestler; he should know better.
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u/MOTUkraken Jul 17 '23
I mean, if you could actually do that on purpose you would be crazy effective!
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u/SkateB4Death sankyu Jul 16 '23 edited Jul 16 '23
I’ve read a lot of complaints about practicing proper ukemi on the bjj and wrestling subreddits. Two grappling styles that are foundational in MMA. Yet, at least from my perspective, they’re the ones always getting injured.
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u/flyingturkeycouchie Jul 17 '23
They are almost anti ukemi for some reason.
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u/CaribooS13 Shodan (CAN) NCCP DI Cert. + Ju-jutsu kai (SWE) sandan A Instr. Jul 17 '23
Bros B4 Hos and Atemi B4 Ukemi
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Jul 16 '23
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u/flyingturkeycouchie Jul 17 '23
You should post this. The video, I mean. Not the takedown. That's how you dislocate an elbow.
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u/BigPooBoy Jul 17 '23
This should honestly be pinned so people know what happens when you don't train ukemi
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u/belowaveragegrappler Jul 16 '23
Ouch. Stuff that nightmares are made of right there.
Anyone point me to a good course of Ukemi that I can bring back to our BJJ class ? More details snd drills the better.
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u/Haunting-Beginning-2 Jul 16 '23
Look at https://youtu.be/wFL3vYVXvHY Judo teachers drills
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u/Haunting-Beginning-2 Jul 16 '23
Why did BJJ (some of) become so clueless in moving into MMA coaching that they forgot the great lessons from Kano to Maeda to Gracie etc….. It up took wrestling’s way because no uniforms are sensible in the octagon, judo’s way involved first teaching capability in falling and then throwing down skills, in that order, to avoid the avoidable! Wrestling apart from suplex do a lot of rolling throws like this one, where judo throws down to smash onto their back (or they could also do head and shoulders)
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u/MOTUkraken Jul 17 '23
Because BJJ haa no system and no methodology. You just train until you become good and then you start training other people and that’s the whole system.
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u/ZVreptile Jul 17 '23
Y'all know that MMA and judo have different goals right?
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u/freshblood96 bjj Jul 17 '23
As a BJJ guy lurking in the judo subreddit, breakfalls are important for any martial art, including MMA.
Also, I assume professional athletes have the same goals regardless of sport: longevity. It's their livelihood, and getting injured isn't going to bring them any money.
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u/MrSkillful Jul 16 '23
"Why do refs give shido when uki lands on elbow?"
This, this is why.