r/judo • u/MasterofLinking shodan • Dec 17 '24

Competing and Tournaments Kouchi while grabbing your own leg.

At a recent local tournament we had this situation, that was a little bit of a controversy. While Tori is not grabbing Ukes leg, in my opinion preventing the possibility of stepping back and thus defending the throw would still fall under blocking the leg. What's your opinion? Would you have given the score or shido?

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u/a-priori ikkyu Dec 17 '24 edited Dec 17 '24

I would have awarded a shido.

The IJF’s rules are not specific about whether it’s legal or not to grip your own leg during a throw. The documents I could find merely say it’s illegal to “grip below the belt” (except during ne waza). So that seems to imply that it doesn’t matter who is being gripped.

Here is the IJF refereeing rules from 2024. The leg grab rule is on page 153.

https://78884ca60822a34fb0e6-082b8fd5551e97bc65e327988b444396.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com/up/2024/04/IJF_SOR_version_12_03_2024_App-1712052995.pdf

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u/mukavastinumb Dec 18 '24

Would you give shido if I lift my pants because they have fallen?

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u/I_am_a_fern Dec 18 '24

Believe it or not, hansoku-make.

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u/Dry_Guest_8961 nidan Apr 14 '25

Also if you lower your pants, hansoku make, right away. Lift pants, lower pants

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u/MasterofLinking shodan Dec 18 '24

It's not the gripping of the leg at issue, but the action of blocking Ukes leg.

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u/a-priori ikkyu Dec 18 '24

If in the process of “lifting your pants” you throw your opponent, then yes.