r/judo • u/MasterofLinking shodan • Dec 17 '24

Competing and Tournaments Kouchi while grabbing your own leg.

At a recent local tournament we had this situation, that was a little bit of a controversy. While Tori is not grabbing Ukes leg, in my opinion preventing the possibility of stepping back and thus defending the throw would still fall under blocking the leg. What's your opinion? Would you have given the score or shido?

>! decision was score !<

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '24

No leg grabbing. What a stupid rule that ruined so many careers. Especially when you change it later which means a whole bunch of people should have won the year before. That’s sports for ya!

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u/Few_Advisor3536 judoka Dec 18 '24

The rule change was agreed upon in 1996 and didnt come into effect until 2012. The gap period is a person’s pro career and a half. More than enough time for people and coaches to adapt.

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u/johnpoulain nidan Dec 19 '24

They announced the rule 16 years in advance?

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u/Few_Advisor3536 judoka Dec 19 '24

According to neil adams in his podcast with lex fridman the IOC in 95 told the IJF they didnt want to have 3 wrestling events (judo being another wrestling even just in a gi in this context).

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u/johnpoulain nidan Dec 19 '24

They went through a lot of different changes and I'm not sure anyone knew leg grabs were guaranteed to go. I'm a seminar with Ashely Mckenzie in 2015 who was complaining he had to learn a new form of Kara Guruma so I'm pretty sure they didn't know for certain what rule changes were coming.

Japanese have been looking down on leg grabs since the 90s. So might not have been too unexpected.

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u/Few_Advisor3536 judoka Dec 19 '24

Leg grabs werent a huge problem and the japanese wouldnt do them unless the chance of ippon was too good to pass up in the moment. The rules get decided in europe, its unfortunate that the kodokan/japanese dont have a say in their own art.