Judo black belt Islam Makhachev with beautiful technique and execution

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can you guys name all of these techniques? I got all except one hahah

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It's really not and this is a huge misconception. If you look at the overseas MMA orgs, especially Asian and Eastern European ones, their fighters and champions are filled with former judoka. I used to believe this falsehood too until I really went down the rabbit hole and realized how many people have judo in their background, but they're never given credit for it because Americans don't value Judo.

Problem is, Americans think everything revolves around them, so they only recognize the dominant arts in the America's like wrestling and boxing.

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There are nowhere near as many Judoka at all levels of MMA as there are wrestlers, boxers etc. As you mentioned in another comment the IJF and the Judo attitude towards MMA is a big part of the reason for this. In France the Judo governing bodies blocked the legalisation of MMA for decades

No MMA organisation in the world is "filled with former Judoka". That is simply not the case. The only ones are arguably the Russian organisations and generally those Judoka are exposed to MMA adjacent competition rulesets like Combat Sambo a lot earlier

The fact is it isn't a falsehood. There aren't many Judoka in MMA

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I mean the UFC is essentially a repository for ex collegiate wrestlers from the US with no career prospects.

A career in MMA is fucking expensive and not at all worth it for the majority of elite athletes, especially from overseas.

Wrestling being the main martial art in the US, where the UFC is based is the main reason the wrestling is popular, not necessarily the merits of the sport alone.

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A career in MMA is across the board more lucrative than amateur sports unless you're winning the Olympics

MMA is also a worldwide sport, and wrestling is actually popular worldwide not just in the US.

What are the career prospects for former Olympic Judoka in their 30s? Most end up working another job or entering a career unrelated to martial arts. Most are working a job alongside their Olympic aspirations

At least at the highest levels of MMA the athletes are full time professionals; though of course enormous pay issues exist

There's a reason boxers win the Olympics before their professional careers, not after. Professional combat sports pay better

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A career in MMA is across the board more lucrative than amateur sports

Sports renumeration is extremely broad and country dependent. Your lack of knowledge on the judo scene shows here.

Actually, I don't think you realise how expensive it is to be an MMA fighter either. Consider that many UFC fighters have to hold second jobs, where as elite judoka from strong judo countries do not have that problem

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulgift/2019/04/17/expenses-of-being-professional-cage-fighter-ufc-bellator-mma-news/

wrestling is actually popular worldwide not just in the US.

Exactly my point. Explain the lack of prominance for world wide wrestlers in the UFC. The U.S. doesn't have the best wrestlers in the world by a long shot. They have the numbers from the local scene. A handful of those are obviously going to be champions.

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Sports renumeration is extremely broad and country dependent. Your lack of knowledge on the judo scene shows here.

My point was ON AVERAGE. Perhaps your reading comprehension could use some work

Actually, I don't think you realise how expensive it is to be an MMA fighter either. Consider that many UFC fighters have to hold second jobs, where as elite judoka from strong judo countries do not have that problem

I have literally fought MMA professionally. Not for a living, but I'm more aware of the costs involved than you are

99.9% of elite Judoka have jobs. A much higher percentage than UFC fighters with jobs. Most UFC fighters do not hold second jobs, or if they do are in MMA coaching roles. Your comment shows your clear lack of experience and knowledge in the MMA world

Exactly my point. Explain the lack of prominance for world wide wrestlers in the UFC. The U.S. doesn't have the best wrestlers in the world by a long shot. They have the numbers from the local scene. A handful of those are obviously going to be champions.

There isn't a lack of world wide wrestlers. The strongest wrestling countries such as Russia and Georgia are represented at the championship level in the UFC. Not sure where you're getting this US central idea from

Also, the best base for MMA in the modern era is MMA. Fighters like Khabib and Islam who are touted as "judoka" have actually been training for MMA their entire lives. Transitioning from elite grappling and striking combat sports to MMA is becoming less common as the sport of MMA evolved and becomes more popular