r/judo • u/Wise-Self-4845 sankyu • Mar 27 '25

Judo x MMA Judo black belt Islam Makhachev with beautiful technique and execution

can you guys name all of these techniques? I got all except one hahah

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u/misterandosan Mar 30 '25

i don't think you have enough judo or wrestling knowledge to know what you're talking about. Because nothing you say makes sense, nor did you actually try to understand any of the statements you quoted from me.

For example:

No gi isn't necessarily faster paced than gi

Like wtf is this even a response to? 😂 Can you read what you quoted again and tell me how your reply is relevant? Do that with every statement. I'm keen to see it.

Every successful judo and sambo practitioner in mma has had considerable mat time in a gi, with a higher percentage of these fighters gaining success vs hundreds of wrestlers in the UFC. And you're trying to argue away from this reality by saying it's not applicable at all.

I'm just confused.

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u/powerhearse Mar 30 '25 edited Mar 30 '25

i don't think you have enough judo or wrestling knowledge to know what you're talking about.

I came to Judo from an MMA and wrestling background and hold a black belt in BJJ, I have plenty of gi and no gi experience across many grappling & MMA rulesets. Almost 2 decades worth in fact, including the last 5 years in Judo. More than half my experience has been no gi I'd say

I see the same misconceptions you're commenting in BJJ about the relevance of gi for MMA. It seems to usually be a misconception held by people with little no gi and/or MMA experience

Every successful judo and sambo practitioner in mma has had considerable mat time in a gi,

Wrong way to look at it. The correct viewpoint is, every succesful Judo and Sambo practitioner in MMA has considerable mat time no gi

Sure, some competed in the gi (though barely any time in the case of Islam and Khabib compared to their years spent in no gi rulesets) but that time spent is not as useful as no gi, end of story

The mythical "oh but the gi is mysteriously useful for no gi, it teaches precision magically" stuff needs to die. It doesn't. It still has some benefit but the optimum training for no gi rulesets is no gi, end of story

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u/misterandosan Mar 31 '25 edited Mar 31 '25

bitch, no one cares about your internet credentials.

My gym has UFC fighters, judoka olympians, we do no-gi judo as part of mma grappling.

You can literally see people improve faster in no-gi judo through gi training over time vs those people who just start no-gi judo from scratch.

But please tell me about your tiny experience with judo makes you an expert on how it's applied no-gi.

I see the same misconceptions you're commenting in BJJ about the relevance of gi for MMA.

No one's talking about BJJ. Stay on topic. Jesus christ.

Sure, some competed in the gi (though barely any time in the case of Islam and Khabib

The fuck are you talking about?
Khabib is literally a two time sambo world champion, his father trained him to become a judo athlete before switching to MMA, and you say he barely spent any time in a gi?

How am I supposed to take you seriously if you're willing to just lie to people to win an argument?
You're a joke.

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u/Economy_Weakness_507 Apr 01 '25

"bitch no one cares about your internet credentials" LMAOOO

There's a lot of stuff this guy gets wrong.