There's no foot placement from blue onto white. Both of blues feet are in the air one either side of the body, so there is definitely no tomoe-nage.
The reaping action of whites leg makes it a definite ouchi gari, and blue kind of just flails around to try and turn it into something when he's already lost.
Outside of the ring in a real situation White would go full back on the ground: wouldn’t recover as easy.
Outside of the ring in a real situation White would not go for an ouchi gari and instead stab the other person and then shoot him and steal all his money.
Seriously though, taking any combat sport and putting it out of context makes no sense. White's goal was to put Blue down on his back with everything he has. Blue's goal is to avoid that at all costs. Of course in this situation White will throw all his body momentum through in order to achieve his goal. He doesn't care if "he would be at risk in da streetz". Someone on the streets in "a real situation" is in general not going to have nearly as good upright defence and White would not need to put nearly as much momentum into the throw. It's also trivially easy (and absolutely awful to experience as uke) to avoid a roll through if you decide to, but again a roll through is beneficial to the thrower in the sport so of course they will happily use it.
Just like you can say "BJJ is shit because I'll do X when you just pull guard on me". Just because they know they can pull guard in their sport context does not mean they will do that in any other situation.
Or even "playing Rugby is stupid because if I give you a ball on the streets you will automatically grab it so I have access to your pockets". Sounds dumb, right? But they train grabbing the ball so much it must be instinctual for them, right??
It's a tired dead argument and is usually thrown around by people with no real combat training in any real sport or live martial art.
The argument isn't wrong, there is video evidence of BJJ guys dropping guard in real fights. Rugby isn't a fighting sport, isn't comparable. Those guys indeed were conditioned by their training and did it in real life. But I don't blame BJJ here, they should have trained double leg take down to take the fight to the ground, but I guess many BJJ gyms don't train it.
It's just like Karate, I'd surely do a Karate punch in a fight. It turns out they aren't really great, pulling the arm so far back, and all straight. Boxing punches are much better and more flexible. But I never trained any Boxing, only Karate, I can't do better.
The vast majority of engagements between someone who trained and someone who didn't goes in favour of the one who trained. A few idiots pulling guard because they don't know any better isn't what I'm talking about. The video shown by OP is of a high level athlete, not some white-belt "I train UFC bro" wannabe fighter who has dabbled a bit and thinks they can fight.
Your karate punch (assuming you train live and not some mcdojo air-punching-only style) will still win out in the vast majority of theoretical engagements. Of course boxing, which specialises in punching more than any other sport, is going to be better at that which it specialises in. That's not up for debate really.
Cool. In that case I suggest you train more and you'll learn the difference between rolling through on purpose and being able to control your momentum when you aren't fighting an elite athlete.
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u/Bad-Batch-of-85 Apr 16 '25
Blue with Tomoe-nage.
Outside of the ring in a real situation White would go full back on the ground: wouldn’t recover as easy.
I accept corrections on my view.