r/judo Jun 07 '25

Other What’s your unpopular opinion on judo

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u/luke_fowl Jun 07 '25

I might get crucified for this, but that judo needs to focus on its martial roots and not just the sports aspect of it. I'm all for the sports of judo, but I see too many people "gamify" it and do things that would in fact be dangerous for yourself outside of a sporting context. The sport should serve the martial aspect, not the other way around. This was why Jigoro Kano created judo, and the peak that a lot of the pioneers strived for, a lot of us nowadays have forgotten that.

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u/Lucidonious Jun 07 '25

To spin off this, i get that its pointless to learn throws that involve leg grabs for sports context but man....looking at old fight vids....some of those were fucking class

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u/Username_St0len Jun 07 '25

i love this, but mainly because i try to do judo throws in wrestling, where leg attacks are the default and bread+butter. but its always fun to send my oppenents flying or falling when they least expect it. sadly, every drilling partner i have in the room are very aware of me trying funny throws and always block or counter. i need to work on better nogi set ups. any advice?

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u/superman306 Jun 08 '25

Transition from lower to upper body. The YouTube channel EarnYourGoldMedal is a goldmine (pun not intended) for this.

As perhaps the most fundamental example of this, here’s a classic Kolat video where he demonstrates hitting an O-Goshi off your opponent reacting to your sweep single with a hard whizzer:

https://youtu.be/3cc7tyjGLx0?si=kNHZWHOwDvFhbk-x

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u/IlVeroDominico Jun 07 '25

upper body throws work especially well when you can transition seamlessly between lower body and upper body attacks.

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u/Fancy_Librarian4514 Jun 07 '25

I could not agree more !

We have started to bring them back where I play.

( I’m 55 and haven’t competed in 30 years I still find them a viable technique )

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u/PoopSmith87 Jun 08 '25

I have two.

To be crucified by non-judokas: It has the potential to be the greatest self-defense art.

To be crucified by judokas: The current rule set is rancid dog shite and results in a 10:1 ratio of looking like a game of assgrab vs looking like an actual combat sport.

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u/Tonyricesmustache Jun 08 '25

No lies detected

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u/chubblyubblums Jun 08 '25

That's clearly an attempt to appeal to BJJ guys. 

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u/PoopSmith87 Jun 08 '25

Competition bjj? That's definitely a pot and a kettle situation

Butt scooting at a standing opponent, double guard jumping... don't get me started

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u/alfred_08 Jun 07 '25

What? Never heard of this!

Apparently, it was mostly because it was too much of an overlap with wrestling and the Olympic committee changed the rules to increase viewership. Also, leg attacks allow judokas to stall the fight more easily.

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u/Yamatsuki_Fusion sankyu Jun 08 '25

This claim gets thrown around all the time and its actual bullshit. Where's your proof?

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u/Kataleps rokkyu + BJJ Purple Jun 08 '25

Which Wrestlers/Sambists were dominating Judo with their leg grabs?

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u/basicafbit Jun 08 '25

Definitely looking for examples of this his. I’ve seen judoka going to wrestling and sambo and absolutely dominating but not the other way around.

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u/wutangkill Jun 09 '25

I have no idea why you guys don't do legs. I am a jiujitsu Muay thai guy that gets a couple judo black belts who come by occasionally for open mat. I'm not a great wrestler, and I don't practice standup other than the fact that I start every round standing but way too often Ill hit a fake posture up to a double leg on these guys with pretty good regularity. It seems incredibly goofy to me to become a black belt at a primarily standup art only for someone who is basically a highschool wrestler to hit you with double leg take downs often.

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u/NerdTalkDan Jun 10 '25

There’s absolutely a balance. I do classical JJ and we are moving through so many techniques in any given class that we don’t practice enough the techniques with higher success rate to risk calculation. We do hip throws and seioi and all the other judo basics, but not enough of them to get really good and effective. But then, as you said, we get to do some really cool looking stuff and cool theory.