r/judo • u/Eastern-Swordfish776 • Jun 07 '25

Other What’s your unpopular opinion on judo

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u/bjprev Jun 07 '25

Not allowing arm bars until brown/black is stupid.

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u/Sherbert_Hoovered Jun 07 '25

In competition this is because you might have green belts and white belts in the same division and I don't want to be doing competitive armbars with a white belt.

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u/bjprev Jun 07 '25

White belts can arm bar in BJJ. So can kids. Never an issue.

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u/ReddJudicata shodan Jun 07 '25

Bjj generally doesn’t apply armbars as … enthusiastically as Judo.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

Uhhhhhh... Sure.

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u/ReddJudicata shodan Jun 07 '25

I’m actually serious. BJJ players are trained to “respect the tap”. Judo players are trained that the match is not over until the ref calls ippon. And you don’t have time to screw around in ne waza. Your goal should be to put uke out or break his arm.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

Okay thanks for that additional context!

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u/powerhearse Jun 07 '25

Judoka are trained to respect the tap in training just like BJJ guys are. 99% of your time armbarring people in Judo is spent respecting the tap.

In BJJ competition you are waiting for the ref exactly the same way. I'm not sure where you're got this misconception from but I'm guessing it's something you've heard someone else say

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u/ReddJudicata shodan Jun 07 '25

I’m talking about competition. And it’s completely accurate.

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u/getvaccinatedidiots Jun 07 '25

It's 1000% accurate which is why arm bars in judo are much more dangerous.

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u/powerhearse Jun 07 '25

They are not more dangerous.

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u/getvaccinatedidiots Jun 08 '25

I have done both for decades and in judo, due to the ruleset, they are far more dangerous. But, you are welcome to believe whatever you like.

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u/powerhearse Jun 09 '25

I have also been grappling for decades. Armbars are armbars. In competition both are brutal

The "judo ruleset makes it faster paced /submissions more effective" trope is a myth. It simply isnt the case.

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u/getvaccinatedidiots Jun 09 '25

In kid's competition, in every bjj tournament I've ever attended, the tap is automatic. Have you seen something different? It certainly isn't that way in judo. Also, I disagree about the speed as they are significantly more explosive in judo and we don't care about the opponent tapping because the referee has to say matte.

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u/powerhearse Jun 07 '25

Have you competed in BJJ? Have you trained BJJ? Where did you hear this? Because you're absolutely wrong.

In BJJ the culture is to wait for the referee to stop the fight, not to let go at the tap.

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u/powerhearse Jun 07 '25

This is an enormous myth.