r/judo • u/Eastern-Swordfish776 • Jun 07 '25

Other What’s your unpopular opinion on judo

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u/bjprev Jun 07 '25

Not allowing arm bars until brown/black is stupid.

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u/_Throh_ sankyu Jun 07 '25 edited Jun 07 '25

Also not allowing chokes until brown/black

Edit: dont get the downvotes, I literally got DQ for it a few months ago lol

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u/Hemmmos Jun 07 '25

what? Where I trained they were allowed since yellow

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u/ejecuepefi Jun 07 '25

They taught me chokes like a week after I started

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u/Hemmmos Jun 07 '25

I mean we were strangling (or attempting to) each other in randori at white belt and we were damned kids. Yellow only applied to competitions.

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u/_Throh_ sankyu Jun 07 '25

Allowing it in your dojo is not the same as in competition. Got DQ for it a couple months ago.

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u/Hemmmos Jun 07 '25

I mean competition. You got a yellow - you could choke. Althrough armbars were from green up.

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u/_Throh_ sankyu Jun 07 '25

Are you in the USA? If yes then I dont know why we change rules from state to state, what is even the point of USA Judo?

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u/Hemmmos Jun 07 '25

nah, not US. But from what I heard in us beginner rules vary from tournament to tournament

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

What.... Wait what?!??!

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u/_Throh_ sankyu Jun 07 '25

I know dude

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u/Yamatsuki_Fusion sankyu Jun 08 '25

It greatly depends on region. We're fine to do them here in Australia, aside from specific novice contests designed to ease new people in.

Otherwise your given community tournament allows it.

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u/criticalsomago Jun 07 '25

It makes sense. Why teach kids arm-bars and chokes?

Tachi-waza is soo much more difficult and critical to learn at an early age.

Holding of on advanced newaza makes for better judokas in the end.

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u/Yamatsuki_Fusion sankyu Jun 08 '25

I think because its being taken as a universal experience. Where I am in Australia, submissions are allowed.

I am on footage getting armbarred lol.

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u/kitchenjudoka nidan Jun 07 '25

What are you talking about. Chokes are taught & applied at early Kyu ranks.

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u/_Throh_ sankyu Jun 07 '25 edited Jun 07 '25

I got DQ for choking out a dude in the green belt and below division just a couple months back. That was the only match the guy won in a division of 5 people.

Never said that it wasn't taught.

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u/kitchenjudoka nidan Jun 07 '25

It sounds like a developmental tournament or your bro was in a kids division. Those are two formats that restrict techniques. My region allows for white belt adults to apply chokes.

Some regions restrict technique in competition due local sports regulations or incidents from past injury reports (see drop knee seoi nage for minors) Judo yudanshinkai have local regulations due to insurance coverage.

The area I’m in doesn’t allow chokes on minors due medical reasons based on research and national guidelines. And minors aren’t allowed armbars. however our coaching team does train & drill those techniques in a dojo environment to develop our young judoka to be prepared when they’ll be ready to use them.

Again, the full spectrum of judo just isn’t competitive rules. Get a copy of the Kodokan Handbook and see.

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u/_Throh_ sankyu Jun 07 '25

Neither me or the comment I replied to were refering to dojos, it is mostly US competition. I havent been to a dojo that prohibits armbars or chokes at all.

And no it wasnt the kids division lol developmental clearly since it was green and below.