Or at least retaining dominant position. So remaining standing or landing in top/control position, or immediate transition to mount/pin.
I see too many throws get ippon that, if it was BJJ (I know it’s not, but still), would result in a back take or immediate reversal by the uke. This includes using the roll through to “force” the ippon AND bad drop throws where Tori is fave down and uke lands face up right beside them.
I only halfway agree - throws should count if they land with dominant position OR with sufficient force. Either would be considered very effective in a real situation. Don't think you want to make people blast their bodyweight on other's in uchi mata etc.
That'd fix the two worst throws plagueing modern judo, drop seois and kata guruma's. Both are fine if they land with force but this awful ''running with it'' meta would stop (especially bad on kata guruma, where it's initial go is stopped and just turns into a zero-impact roll/walk over).
Nobody can claim a drop-seoi wouldn't be effective in a real life situation even if you end up technically exposing your back, if the actual throw itself has considerable impact.
While I get your argument, I would still prefer to maintain a dominant posture post throw even if the fight is already over. From a purely martial perspective, getting stuck on the ground after a throw would be a disaster.
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u/Fit-Tax7016 nikyu Jun 07 '25
Yeah. I almost think Ippon should be given for throwing and landing in the dominant position.