r/judo Jun 07 '25

Other What’s your unpopular opinion on judo

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u/DangerousBullfrog164 Jun 07 '25

Roling over and ending in a more compromised position then your opponent after a throw is not ippon worthy.

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u/disposablehippo shodan Jun 07 '25

Why though? If you see it from a "real world application" standpoint, even if the other guy ends up on top of you, you just hit him with the pavement. That's the traditional reason ippon meant end of contest. And for sports reason: if this happens after ippon, it's most likely because Tori let it happen knowing it was ippon. And if there was such a rule, I'd just position my lapel hand in a way Tori will always end up in a choke after throwing me for ippon.

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u/powerhearse Jun 07 '25

Hitting someone with pavement is not a guaranteed end to a fight, that's a common misconception in Judo.

And for sports reason: if this happens after ippon, it's most likely because Tori let it happen knowing it was ippon.

Nah, most of the time jt's because they commit so hard to the throw that they are physically unable to maintain top position. Hell, Uchi Mata variants are taught with the roll through an integral part of the variant

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u/Economy_Weakness_507 Jun 07 '25

It’s not always a fight ender but I wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end of a properly executed judo throw with bad intentions on concrete

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u/powerhearse Jun 08 '25

Nobody would. That's a fairly substantially shifted goalpost though. Significant incapacitation is not guaranteed with every throw. If you're throwing for self defence you should absolutely be ensuring you maintain top control afterwards.

Also, if you're throwing for self defence you shouldn't be trying to kill the guy in 99% of cases. Unless you like jail