r/judo Jun 14 '25

Competing and Tournaments Dzhebov throws Abe for ippon

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u/Senior-Chapter-jun91 Jun 14 '25

can someone explain to my non judo eyes?

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u/ColdReflection3366 Jun 14 '25

What part do you want explained?

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u/marek_intan Jun 14 '25

I, personally, don't see how white is scoring ippon here. As a BJJ guy, I see blue initiating to attack uchi mata, white attempting to defend, almost stuffing blue's attack by sweeping him onto his back, but blue gets his balance and ends on top inside white's closed guard. 

 I don't understand how white scores anything from this position, much less wins the match. 

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u/disposablehippo shodan Jun 14 '25

Look up "Uchi-mata sukashi". The leg hook is an addition you normally don't see.

Basically blue threw himself because white made the attack not connect to his body, so the momentum stays with blue, leading to a summersault.

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u/disposablehippo shodan Jun 15 '25

Watch White's upper body. Abe cannot turn him (which the Japanese take great emphasis on), he faces the mat the whole time. While he manages to twist Abes upper body slightly. Abe lands with his side before white hits the mat. It's all a bit convoluted, but a proper counter. I would have given Waza-ari though.

Only concerning thing is the leg hook which gives a bit of a kawazu-gake impression, but since it wasn't weighted, it doesn't matter.

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u/disposablehippo shodan Jun 15 '25

I discussed with another higher Dan, he would classify it as uchi-mata-gaeshi because white does not step out with his leg, but that's semantics and not part of our discussion. Just a clarification for further referral. The leg entanglement could potentially be dangerous, but at their level I have seen enough other stuff that would tear my body apart. Certainly nothing I would teach! From a ruleset point of view it is not a forbidden technique (especially kawazu-gake comes to mind).

So if you look into Uchi-mata sukashi and -gaeshi, they live of the point that you move your center of gravity out of the position Tori expects it to be and he mostly throws himself. White ensures blues rotation continues to the point of ippon.

Tl;Dr: blue lands on his back before white (without sutemi-waza), so it's a score.