r/judo • u/ColdReflection3366 • Jun 14 '25

Competing and Tournaments Dzhebov throws Abe for ippon

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u/AshiWazaSuzukiBrudda ⬛️ shodan -81kg (and BJJ 🟦) Jun 14 '25

Hmmm - uchi mata sukashi is a te waza, and a different technique as there’s no manipulation of the Tori’s leg in that technique.

I think what we saw is much closer to uchi mata gaeshi, don’t you think?

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u/Sparks3391 sandan Jun 14 '25

No, uchi mata gaeshi requires you to stop ukis uchimata and then revers the direction backwards sweeping the supporting leg.

The direction is correct for sukeshi I don't believe tori is using his leg in the op he's just using his hands and shoulders to take ukis momentum and direct as he slips the technique. Definitely sukeshi even if a slightly unorthodox application.

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u/AshiWazaSuzukiBrudda ⬛️ shodan -81kg (and BJJ 🟦) Jun 14 '25

I see your point about the direction for uchi mata gaeshi, makes sense. Thanks for explaining.

But I do think Uke is actively manipulating Tori’s leg here as part of the counter. USA 🇺🇸 judoka Nicole Stout shows it really well here.

It’s the same technique she’s showing, right?

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u/Sparks3391 sandan Jun 14 '25

Yes, it is the same technique she is showing. The designation of a throw is usually defined by the fulcrum. Koshi waza, the fulcrum is at the hip, ashi waza its around foot/leg. So this would still be tae waza as the hands are the main factor.

The fact she is manipulating the leg doesn't really make much difference. We don't change an ashi waza throw like osoto gari because tori has taken an over the top grip and is actively manipulating uki's chin with his forearm.

I hope that makes some sense as it's quite difficult to explain through text, and I'm also struggling to find the correct words to explain.