r/judo • u/Forevershiroobi • Jun 20 '25

Judo News Guram and Teddy Tension

Looks like the tension between these two giants is still palpable and electric.

Teddy awards the gold and offers a handshake while Guram accepts but ignores the handshake aswell as the eye contact.

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u/PrunoSudicio753aC sankyu Jun 20 '25

But why?

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u/JudoboyWalex Jun 21 '25

Check their match at last Olympics

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u/lewdev Jun 21 '25

I wasn't paying attention to names, but I'm guess Guram was the guy that kicked Teddy in the crotch while on the ground after being thrown. It was pretty bad; it was a clean throw and somehow he was upset about it. Anyone care to share more details about this?

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u/Uchimatty Jun 21 '25 edited Jun 21 '25

Guram threw Teddy in Tbilisi a year (?) before, but it was overturned because he reaped the supporting leg of Teddy’s harai, which is illegal. Teddy then beat Guram in Paris and celebrated on top of him, which prompted the nut-kick. They never made up because neither of them thought they were in the wrong. In judo, celebrating after a win is fine. Celebrating over someone is disrespectful, but also “not that bad”. Fighting someone for disrespect is bad.

In chidaoba (Georgian folkstyle wrestling), the most important thing is being graceful in victory. That’s why Georgians get all cuddly after matches instead of just shaking hands and bowing. In the other hand, fighting people for disrespecting you is very normalized.

If you look at social media, basically everyone thinks Guram is a tool except Georgians. They defend him to the death and think he did nothing wrong, because according to their culture, he didn’t. There’s no common ground, so this beef will continue for a long time.

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u/PrunoSudicio753aC sankyu Jun 21 '25

Quite sad to see such behaviour in a martial art that is based on respect

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u/lewdev Jun 21 '25

https://www.reddit.com/r/judo/s/1dJYWmXMg3

It was discussed previously and while some say Teddy might have grabbed Guram's neck somehow, others say it only looked that way from a certain angle.

Guram has a reputation as a hothead and his overreaction to his loss was on par with his previous interactions with Teddy and other opponents. Teddy has a reputation of being generally a good sportsman.

I thought something on Teddy's part caused Guram to get upset. There were clearly words exchanged, but nobody seems to have any insight as to what was said.

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u/Apart_Studio_7504 ikkyu Jun 21 '25

If I remember right, it had to do with Riner giving him a tap on the jaw and then keeping him pinned to the ground for a few seconds too long.