r/judo • u/paulvikingar • Jun 30 '25

Competing and Tournaments Counter Seoi Nage with Juji Gatame

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u/LAMARR__44 Jun 30 '25

I don’t get how everyone is saying this is ai.

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u/Prestigious-Mirror50 Jun 30 '25 edited Jun 30 '25

Nvm i found the sourse of this clip, its real. Folks too paronoid about AI these days (me included lol). Cant send a pic or a link (not sure if its alowed to send links to russian social platfrom or any other platform other than reddit in this sub) but video is called "День 1. Т2. Fonbet "Russian judo Tour". г. Челябинск". The armbar happens at 4:14:25 mark. My guess to why it looks so strange is probablly filters used in the clip

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u/LAMARR__44 Jun 30 '25

I just thought there was too much consistency for it to be ai. Like look how blue gi stays gripping the collar the whole way through.

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u/kwan_e yonkyu Jun 30 '25

Should be right to be paranoid. People really should get into the habit of linking their sources.

And everyone else should take everything with a huge block of salt until they've checked the source(s).

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u/d_rome Jun 30 '25

I agree with you. This is the era we all live in now and it's terrible. I think the number of Internet traffic for fake accounts and/or bots has eclipsed 50%. AI art and video generation seems to improve every few months. Major "news" outfits are using AI to create articles. Pretty soon we will have to verify everything in person else we'll assume it's fake. That's probably not a bad thing.

I thought this video was AI at first, but all the background images, advertisements, and people moving around looked too accurate to me.

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u/kwan_e yonkyu Jun 30 '25

Even if it wasn't all AI (hypothetically speaking), it's not beyond the capability of someone to generate all those individual elements with AI, like background things, and then composite/edit it together, also with the aid of AI to make it look realistic.

I know people who do tweak their own AI art stuff like this to get better results.

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u/Prestigious-Mirror50 Jun 30 '25 edited Jun 30 '25

Here you can see proof its real under this post: (check the first comment): https://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments/1lnw3xv/its_rare_to_see_this_kind_of_armbar/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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u/HeadandArmControl Jun 30 '25

This doesn’t prove anything. I want to see the real video not a sceeenshot.

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u/ChickenNuggetSmth gokyu Jun 30 '25

The speedups/slowdowns give this a super unnatural feeling. It also has the same focus/sharp foreground and blurred background that is pretty common in AI.

I'm aware it's a real clip, but it ticks a lot of AI signs. And AI has gotten scary good, so it's increasingly hard to spot clear errors and instead you often just notice the "vibe"

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u/kwan_e yonkyu Jun 30 '25

A lot of people are relying on still shots, which is not a very reliable method, given all the compression artifacts, and also editing.

But then, someone using AI would try to hide some details with compression and editing.

If this is AI, there's some human effort put into it. Or otherwise, it's just your average poorly encoded thing.

For me, I'd have to look at how someone with hair with the same amount of flop as blue-gi looks in slow mo. It looks too much like digital hair to me, but again, could just be the speed ramping up and down in the edit.

The image quality is too good for a local tournament. Surely this tournament, with its relatively high production quality, should have well known names, and this would have been reported somewhere else, if it was real.

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u/Apart_Studio_7504 ikkyu Jun 30 '25

A lot of people showing they cant juji roll in this thread.

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u/Mr_Hambre Jun 30 '25 edited Jun 30 '25

Is this legal tho? Some referees may argue he is starting Kansetsu Waza in Tachi Waza.

Still amazing AF

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u/frizzaro nikyu Jun 30 '25

THAT! More than the discussion of whether it is AI or not is what really interests me.

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u/getvaccinatedidiots Jun 30 '25

The only way to say this is this: the rules are whatever the IJF says they are at the time and whatever they said before that doesn't matter.

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u/islandis32 ikkyu Jun 30 '25

It's not AI!!! Seriously it's just a good camera/slow mo/ and perfect technique The real question is was it legal since Blue stood up

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u/lambdeer Jun 30 '25

Kohara tried to do this to Nagase and ended up head-spiking himself. Make sure you drill it and tuck your chin. Also if you *land on your shoulder you can break that but I guess it’s better than your neck.

*land not hand

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u/Virtual_Nudge Jun 30 '25

Holy cow, that rotation looked unreal. I keep watching it and it doesn't look right.

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u/Conquestenjoyer Jun 30 '25

The second version skips part of it

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u/HeadandArmControl Jun 30 '25

That’s cause it’s AI

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u/statelesspirate000 Jun 30 '25

I hate the slow motion replay that speeds through the important parts

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u/Albanax Jul 04 '25

Ai or not (its not😅) ..its perfectly doable so why even bother questionning the authenticity of the clip ?? 😑😅😑

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '25

Damn that's cool, I feel like I'd break my neck if I tried this

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '25

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u/JEEM-NOON Jun 30 '25

AI is still not this good , guys stop labeling it AI without proper knowledge.

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u/Prestigious-Mirror50 Jun 30 '25

I too belived that its AI but surprisingly its not (check the first comment): https://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/comments/1lnw3xv/its_rare_to_see_this_kind_of_armbar/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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u/HeadandArmControl Jun 30 '25

This doesn’t prove anything. I want to see the real video not a screenshot.

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u/DreamingSnowball Jun 30 '25

I'm not so sure in this case.

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u/Rodrigoecb Jun 30 '25

Why?

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '25

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u/EssentialTremorsSwe Jun 30 '25

Background's too smooth to be AI. Hands looks good as well.

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u/MiracleMaax_Official Jun 30 '25

How is his arm not broken? 😳

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u/RoughTech Jun 30 '25

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u/TheVillainNJ Jul 14 '25

Damn. Beautiful.

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u/GuaccyGuaccy Jun 30 '25

I NEED THIS

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u/Ambitious_Mode8576 Jun 30 '25

seems illegal in judo but im not an expert in judo rules... very good for bjj, should also work without a gi

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u/Usual-Subject-1014 Jun 30 '25

How do you actually get this level of neck strength

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '25

This might be the first AI video where I was genuinely tricked