I've already stated this multiple times, but it's badly taught (generalization), meaning improper teaching methods or explanations based on "feel" or tradition instead of scientific studies.
A couple of days ago, I got scolded by an older judoka (not even the Sensei) for doing the "competitive" version of a technique instead of the "kata style" while in practice.
I generally tell people they should learn the classical way of doing it (you'll need to for grading) first, but that everyone has different body mechanics and adjusting it slightly may work better for them.
For me, that's one of the beautiful things about judo. Adaptation through pressure testing.
Yeah! I wholeheartedly agree with that! But the thing is, of course, techniques end up changing a little from person to person. Overcorrection to fit in with a "kata style" will only lead to hindering performance.
I tell anyone that “scolds” me to go fuck themselves. it’s a hobby, I’m an adult, and I’m paying to be there. don’t take that crap just because they’re further along in the sport than you are.
Yeah, don't take crap from anyone. I'm a film director, so I'm used to people giving unwanted input ALL THE TIME, but someone doing it angrily is definitely a no-no, doesn't matter if they've been doing something longer than you. Getting verbal is unacceptable, especially when someone doesn't know what they're doing. That just makes them look like a fool.
In general, do you find drilling the comp style to have positive effects on your training? Do you ask your uke to do anything different when you drill the comp variation?
Yeah, ever since I started tweaking some minor things here and there, I've multiplied the amount of throws I get in randori and competition by x10.
Nothing different from uke, standing uchikomis are nothing more than warmups for me, so nothing special there. But when it comes to moving and drilling, is when we make a BIG difference. Every competition I've been in, I've been able to completely dominate my opponents due to proper kumikata and slightly unorthodox entries. Everything feels more natural, like my mind isn't "adjusting" a technique for competition.
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Thats just weird to me.. Our sensei( this was a class specifically for people with extensive MA background/training for work and uninterested in competing)was very clear from day one, everyone will find techniques they prefer or find variations of techniques that fit them or the situation . Judo is supposed to be dynamic and those who do not adapt will suffer from it. I had two Judo matches just for fun, in one I somehow countered a ogoshi with one of my own, wrestling background saved my ass, it was probably the ugliest ogoshi ever done, but it got the job done ( how do I know it was ugly, well, my sensei told me 😅 )
We trained with other classes aswell, but we had a different focus.
I mean if they are able to teach with classical/traditional way of doing these techniques, as long as they can explain the details from A to Z it will be good. I joined judo couple days ago, and I still had no Idea how to "unbalance" someone, still had no idea the basic of gripping and where to grip, and still had no idea the basic stance, and how to properly stand in judo. I still find it too dangerous just to stand tip-toeing when performing throws.
I teach kata first but if people aren't picking it up, I'll go for "what's the minimal execution of this that fits the definition" to get them to a level of mechanical competence, then we work towards the kata for the throw. There are two goals here - knowing how to perform the kata and knowing how to effectively execute the throw. We should not let those two goals be opposed to each other.
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u/CripplingDepressi0n4 gokyu Jul 06 '25
I've already stated this multiple times, but it's badly taught (generalization), meaning improper teaching methods or explanations based on "feel" or tradition instead of scientific studies.
A couple of days ago, I got scolded by an older judoka (not even the Sensei) for doing the "competitive" version of a technique instead of the "kata style" while in practice.