Judo does a really trash job in conditioning compared to wrestling. Technique is one thing, but having an integrated conditioning routine like wrestling is really important and a lot of places don’t have that.
Another thing is sports aspect of Judo has led to the martial arts being diluted significantly. Same is the issue with TKD and Karate.
I disagree, judo is one of the combat sports where athletes are freakishly strong.
Outside of the US its on par with wrestling. I do agree with your point when it comes to USA judo but looking at Japan, France, mongolian, Korea. They have tons of integrated strength & conditioning.
Western europe even france there is mo discussion even possible, average judo club isnt your average wrestling club, i never saw any real wrestling club where anyone wasnt super strong, super shape, gymnastics freaks, but i know majority of judokas here western europe who are altough better than average, nowhere as strong nor athletic/conditioned as wrestlers. I feel judo is much more hobbyist gyms mindset vs real legit tough as nails gyms and athletes while wrestling is 95 to even 99 % even in europe hard as hell
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u/ChurchofMarx Jul 06 '25
Judo does a really trash job in conditioning compared to wrestling. Technique is one thing, but having an integrated conditioning routine like wrestling is really important and a lot of places don’t have that.
Another thing is sports aspect of Judo has led to the martial arts being diluted significantly. Same is the issue with TKD and Karate.