Why the animosity towards BJJ?

[u/pianoplayrr]

I'm just wondering why I often see Judo people ragging on BJJ people. I see this a lot when a BJJ guy posts a video demonstrating a Judo throw. In the comments there will usually be a bunch of angry Judo people saying things like "BJJ = basically just Judo", and things like that.

I have been noticing this for years, but why?

I think both arts are awesome, and it would be great if we could just combine them into one big, beautiful art!

[u/miqv44]

I think you are approaching this from the wrong angle- BJJ since it's creation (rebranding kosen judo and pretending it's something new) has been disrespecting Judo and Japan as a country in general. There was some very unhealthy rivalry and I'm not pretending judo people were without a fault too. Read up about the Masahiko Kimura story and how their trip to Brazil looked like, see who was being more respectful then. So if you see angry judokas- its often leftovers or some reaction to disrespect they had from BJJ side.

I wish I could post the picture of my facebook chat with a "respected bjj practitioner from north of USA, father of 2 daughters and generally most chill bloke in ther academy" after I politely said that he's getting terminology wrong for one takedown (I think he mistook harai goshi with taiotoshi, which sure is common, both throws can look similar to someone untrained).
So you have to trust me this reaction from him in private DMs I got from him happened:
"What are you going to do about it tough guy
Come on fat boy, respond.
Fuck your mother"

It was in BJJ Fanatics group, where most people are chill and appreciate input from judokas so I'm picking an exception here but I was honestly shocked a father of 2 girls is acting this way, I contacted his head coach about it and he promised to talk to the guy about it.

Last thing I want is judo and BJJ being combined. Having any ties to a criminal Helio Gracie would be like getting an uncurable skin disease to me. Let people crosstrain if they need to, I don't need to. It has a very unhealthy culture, often straight up a culture of disrespect, with white belts being bullied by blue belts or older white belts, everyone acting like a child trying to impress their abusive, alcoholic father just to get a new stripe on their belt. "Look at me coach, I submitted him! Remember this when you think about promoting people!". Especially in my country it is like that.

[u/Truth-Miserable → u/miqv44]

You really hit the nail on the head with a lot of it. A lot of the culture are insufferable assholes (even the ones with "chill" reputations), and Helio Gracie should definitely be looked at as a criminal people should wanna distance themselves from